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Message: <blockquote data-quote="catastrophic" data-source="post: 5653907" data-attributes="member: 81381">Again, do you not see how this applies to the people in this thread who are really angry that a couple of guys made some jokes about bytopia? And again, at some point you do have to recognise where most of the fist-waving, slightly mystifying anger, and frankly bizzare rumors about 5e at gen con, come from. I mean it's not as if many fans of 4e are going around saying that only obscene language would allow them to properly describe the Grim Machinations of Paizo.  It's not as if there are huge threads on various forums about how WOTC is totally going to announce the release of 4.0uroboros, the glorious Never Ending Edition that shall reign for eternity blessings of the time lords beee upon iiitt. Which franky, is about as likely as them announcing 5e this year- or planning to announce it, and then canceling at the last moment. But the 5e predictions fill up entire threads. Are we really going to blame Mike Mearls from that? WOTC employees make good scapegoats, I guess. The thing about a stronger subscription models is that it isn't nesecarily going to be more restrictive. There's a lot of flexibility and convenience that can be put into a systme like that with a bit more work on it. You'd have to imagine that they're designing with that intention, and generally to make a more versatle back end for different uses. This also plugs into the idea of modular options, which may be more of a product philosophy than a design one.  For instance, a decent online tool would not only allow players and DMs to tick/untick access to various sourcebooks when making a pc, but would allow the subscription model to perhaps do the same thing. For free, you might get access to the red box stuff or the core classes and base progression, and then pay into various suplements or stages.</blockquote>

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