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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5655128" data-attributes="member: 61155">I'm not sure how that relates to anything I said? Mournblade claimed that &quot;only people that did not care about [the Forgotten Realms] wanted it changed&quot;. I pointed out that I was at least one example of someone who was a fan of the setting and, also, wanted it changed - thus proving his claim incorrect. &nbsp;My point was not to claim that everyone wanted it changed, nor even that every change they made was a good one. My point was that saying, &quot;No true fan of FR could have wanted to see these changes or liked them&quot; is pretty much a perfect example of the &quot;no true scotsman&quot; fallacy. He can claim that he didn't want these changes, but he can't claim that other fans did not - or that, if they did, it meant they weren't &quot;true fans&quot; after all. &nbsp;I assume you are (sarcasticly) indicating that the FR boards are not as active in 4E as they were in 3rd Edition? Which isn't a huge surprise, but I imagine at least in part that is due to the difference in campaign support, if nothing else. Whatever its source, I can't see any way it would prove or disprove anything I said in that post, and certainly not the sentences that you quoted.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 5655128, member: 61155"] I'm not sure how that relates to anything I said? Mournblade claimed that "only people that did not care about [the Forgotten Realms] wanted it changed". I pointed out that I was at least one example of someone who was a fan of the setting and, also, wanted it changed - thus proving his claim incorrect. My point was not to claim that everyone wanted it changed, nor even that every change they made was a good one. My point was that saying, "No true fan of FR could have wanted to see these changes or liked them" is pretty much a perfect example of the "no true scotsman" fallacy. He can claim that [I]he [/I]didn't want these changes, but he can't claim that other fans did not - or that, if they did, it meant they weren't "true fans" after all. I assume you are (sarcasticly) indicating that the FR boards are not as active in 4E as they were in 3rd Edition? Which isn't a huge surprise, but I imagine at least in part that is due to the difference in campaign support, if nothing else. Whatever its source, I can't see any way it would prove or disprove [I]anything [/I]I said in that post, and certainly not the sentences that you quoted. [/QUOTE]

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