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cancelled 5e announcement at Gencon??? Anyone know anything about this?
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<blockquote data-quote="IronWolf" data-source="post: 5657990" data-attributes="member: 21076"><p>It seems when D&D was on top you seemed to place a little more trust in the ICv2 suggesting that it offered clear conclusions (from <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/264235-hobby-game-market-strong-rpgs-deeply-troubled-2.html#post4912577" target="_blank">this post</a>)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Admittedly the ICv2 is not the be all end all report of RPG sales, but it has been consistent in its methodology over the years and certainly acts as a barometer to what is happening in the industry. And it seems at one time you used to think it a reasonable barometer as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The OGL is one of the things that helped really let 3.x gain steam and dig its hooks into a lot of people. It was a great thing and made for very exciting times within the hobby.</p><p></p><p>And cashing in? Sure the Pathfinder Core Rulebook had a large basis on 3.5 and was backwards compatible with some tweaks here and there to help shore up what some thought were weaknesses. But then they went on to start with their own more original tweaks with things in books like the APG and the Ultimate series of books. Paizo has been bringing a lot of innovation to the table with their subsequent source book releases.</p><p></p><p>And on top of all that - they still continue to release a massive portion of their rules under an open ruleset, readily available for free on sites like d20pfsrd.com and such.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Lisa was overly celebratory? Where was this at? Has she expressed her pride? Yes. A good number of the big dogs at Paizo are frequently heard saying there is plenty of room for both systems and play what you like.</p><p></p><p>I firmly fall into the play the system you like camp. I don't feel the need to tear WotC down. I had a great time playing 3.5 and supported them with lots of dollars. They went to 4e and that game just didn't scratch my itch - I don't begrudge them for it or feel sleighted or cheated. Lucky for me another choice emerged that did fit what I wanted. But I can enjoy my game without bashing WotC or tearing down 4e as a "wrong" system.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IronWolf, post: 5657990, member: 21076"] It seems when D&D was on top you seemed to place a little more trust in the ICv2 suggesting that it offered clear conclusions (from [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/264235-hobby-game-market-strong-rpgs-deeply-troubled-2.html#post4912577]this post[/url]) Admittedly the ICv2 is not the be all end all report of RPG sales, but it has been consistent in its methodology over the years and certainly acts as a barometer to what is happening in the industry. And it seems at one time you used to think it a reasonable barometer as well. The OGL is one of the things that helped really let 3.x gain steam and dig its hooks into a lot of people. It was a great thing and made for very exciting times within the hobby. And cashing in? Sure the Pathfinder Core Rulebook had a large basis on 3.5 and was backwards compatible with some tweaks here and there to help shore up what some thought were weaknesses. But then they went on to start with their own more original tweaks with things in books like the APG and the Ultimate series of books. Paizo has been bringing a lot of innovation to the table with their subsequent source book releases. And on top of all that - they still continue to release a massive portion of their rules under an open ruleset, readily available for free on sites like d20pfsrd.com and such. Lisa was overly celebratory? Where was this at? Has she expressed her pride? Yes. A good number of the big dogs at Paizo are frequently heard saying there is plenty of room for both systems and play what you like. I firmly fall into the play the system you like camp. I don't feel the need to tear WotC down. I had a great time playing 3.5 and supported them with lots of dollars. They went to 4e and that game just didn't scratch my itch - I don't begrudge them for it or feel sleighted or cheated. Lucky for me another choice emerged that did fit what I wanted. But I can enjoy my game without bashing WotC or tearing down 4e as a "wrong" system. [/QUOTE]
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