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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Votan" data-source="post: 5664238" data-attributes="member: 18680">Maybe I am just unlucky, but I see both issues in games that I participate in.  In 3.5 D&D/Pathfinder, there is a clear threshold where the party calls it a day.  Spells dictate part of it, but so does healing.  Time pressures can't do anything if the party honestly thinks (and often with good reason in Paizo adventures) that the next encounter is a hopeless TPK.  On the other hand, the grind of 4E can be murder.  I have often figured out the result of a battle an hour before the end of the encounter.  The last hour is determining the precise number of healing surges that the battle will cost: is it n or n+1 surges.  It hasn't stopped me from having fun playing these games.  But it does suggest that all attempts to model reality have limitations.  For example, Axis and Allies plays very differently than the SSI computer game War in the Pacific -- yet both are simulating the second world war.  Both are going to have quirks and both will show odd features in edge cases.  However, I think it is reasonable to consider ideas for improving features that may not be optimal.  For example, I have been wondering for a while if 4E would play better if one divided hit points by two?  Or if combat healing no longer restored players who drop (otherwise it feels like weebles wooble but they never fall down).  But in 3.5, I had enormous problems with the 15 minute adventure day (before I even knew the term).  But we also had some of the most exciting and tense battles ever.  Ones that people talked about for days later, or would show up as Facebook posts because they were cool.  So I tend to think that all sides are right, here.  Issues exist with how different games simulate a fantasy world.  You can have fun with a lot of different approaches.  On average, these games have many more good points than bad.</blockquote>

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