Cartoon Network's Clone War Ep. 20

[Chain Lightning]

He was exhausted already? It does take energy to use the Force.



Can't explain that other than saying...hey, its a MOVIE. And a movie that was made in the style of Saturday Matinee things, so its not going to make all that sense. I'd say the Yoda thing is a matter of style.



...I'm not even going to attempt that one...its best just to ignore it was every mentioned.

I actually agree with all your points here Ankh. I just went into "splitting hairs" mode there for the arguement. But I agree with yah.

 

[DanMcS]

I watched the first 7 shorts last night the cartoon network website; I tried to go back and watch the rest, and it's saying the page doesn't exist. Anyone know where to find all 20? Starwars.com claims to have them, but that link doesn't seem to work either. Very frustrating.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

I actually agree with all your points here Ankh. I just went into "splitting hairs" mode there for the arguement. But I agree with yah.

Its hard NOT to agree on that last one...

 

[Kai Lord]

As far as I'm concerned the Clone Wars cartoons have given me 90% of what I was hoping for when I heard they were making a prequel trilogy. Whatever Episode III brings to the table is just gravy. See George? Not so difficult now was it? You come up with the story and cheesy names (General Grievous? What's next, Darth Cheatsonhistaxes?) and then let the "experts" go out and actually make the movies. Just like with The Empire Strikes Back.

George's ideas + the execution of an expert filmmaker = What we've all been waiting for! As far as I'm concerned the whole "nothing could ever live up to people's expectations" and "people just want to bitch about anything Lucas touches" arguments are *dead and buried.* No more.

The Clone Wars gave us great characterizations, action, story, music, everything we hope for in Star Wars, all with the approval and involvement of George Lucas. The only reason I gave it a 90% and not a hundred is because it wasn't live action and didn't feature the duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan. Which obviously is what Episode III is for.

Can't wait for these things to come out on DVD.

 

[John Crichton]

I loved Clone Wars. It has really got my juices flowing for Episode III. I felt the same way playing Knights of the Old Republic. They both make me want to pop in the DVDs/tapes of the movies themselves. Actually, it's the same feeling I got after watching both the re-releases of the originals and after each of the prequels.

Is Clone Wars better than any of the films? Nope, not to me. They stand on equal ground. I was fully entertained by each of the films and all the shorts. The things that the shorts have going for them are: tons of action (and not much else), very little dialogue which is something all the films are weak in and a cliffhanger every 3 minutes.

Overall, there is really no overall plot to the whole thing (even thought it felt like there was one) which is fine by me. The medium used was utilized to near perfection. I liked the snapshot feel to it. There was alot going on within the war theme and we got so many looks at it that there was no need for anything else. The one thing that Lucas has always been good at is directing an action sequence and many of the shots used his style - his strongest aspect as a director. With all the action going on there was no way to dwell on the Lucasian directing weaknesses, such as dialogue and pacing. Could this crew make an entire film as entertaining as the ones already made? Animated? I would like to see it.

 

[jarlaxlecq]

I loved exactly HALF of a ep2. You'll notice that the chapters alternate between Anakin and Padme, and Obi wan. If you skip the chapters with Anakin and padme and just watch the ones with Obi wan you'll find that its a pretty damn good movie. Thankfully From what everyone has said Anakin as "Grown up" by the time of Ep3, more like the anakin from the clone wars. With that one issue taken care of i have high hopes for Ep3, much more then i did for ep2 after watching ep1. I sincerly think Lucas as taken some of the critisims from the previous two to heart and is doing the best he can for Ep3.


-EDIT I also hope we see a little of that great "Force-fu" demonstrated by Mace Windu in clone wars in Ep3. It was great stuff

 

[LordVyreth]

Does anyone know what the deal with that Durge guy was? He seemed like a fairly normal droid/cyborg bounty hunter type in episode 8, and then he goes all Akira-y in episode 9. How was he doing that? Nanomachines? Advanced robotics? Is he a D&D troll that somehow ended up in the Star Wars universe?

 

[WizarDru]

Does anyone know what the deal with that Durge guy was? He seemed like a fairly normal droid/cyborg bounty hunter type in episode 8, and then he goes all Akira-y in episode 9. How was he doing that? Nanomachines? Advanced robotics? Is he a D&D troll that somehow ended up in the Star Wars universe?

One of the things that was cool about Clone Wars (and there are many) was that many of the characters are part of the 'expanded universe'...namely Star Wars materials that have appeared outside the movies, and appeared in novels, comics and elsewhere. Durge is such a character, as is Asajj Ventress. He was 2000 years old when Obi-Wan takes him out, and apparently is a weird cluster of nerves and genetic material. For you KOTOR fans, he was captured and tortured by the Mandaalorians for a long time, and was glad that the repulic clones were based on them, so he could kill a lot of them. You can read about him at the Star Wars databank on starwars.com. General Greivous is on the cover of the latest Star Wars Insider.

Everyone I know thinks that the Clone Wars miniseries is, for the most part, superior to Episodes I and II. I haven't purchased either one on DVD, yet, but I anxiously await the arrival of Clone Wars. I think Lucas has a lot to be proud of, and I think he can be a good director. But I also think that both Ep. I and II are flawed significantly, because Lucas is focusing on the wrong goals, and second-guessing himself too much. Lucas is now too concerned with creating product, particularly with too-self-conscious decisions about introducting kid-friendly elements like Jar-Jar and only droid bad-guys who say silly phrases, when he should be concentrating on being internally consistent to his own style.

Remember "Troops"? Lucas came away from that with the wrong message, I think. He saw "Digital technology has removed the shackles on my imagination", and I think he should have seen "wow, a clever script and some deft cgi can produce some incredible work." No one doubts ILM's technical wizardry...just that Lucas is spending too much time on the graphics and not enough on the story. As someone else pointed out, Take out Anakin, and I think you have a great movie. Ewan Macgregor's spot-on take on Sir Alec Guinness is fantastic, frankly, and a much more interesting character than Anakin is really allowed to be. I mean, Luke only whined for a little while, after all.

 

[JoeGKushner]

I recently saw the whole stretch of them. I really enjoyed it. It was great fun. Nothing to serious or mind blowing but short clips that in many ways reminded me of Samurai Jack.

I've read some of the Clone Wars comics too and they've helped fill in the gaps quite a bit.

Depending on the timeline of the third movie, it'll be interesting to see exactly how many Jedi are left. Quite a few are slain in the comic and it looked like at the end there, quite a few more went the way of dust.