Spoilers Fantastic Four (Spoilers)

[Tonguez]

I feel certain that there was meant to be more to those relationships but that stuff was cut for length..

although there were a couple of 'gaps' I liked the length and quick pace of the movie, I think that got in the needed highlights and relationship nods to tell the story (especially for Sue and Ben) without getting distracted - and suffering the MCUs faults.
Johnny was perhaps a bit underdeveloped in that regard, but having him not be the 'hot' batchelor playboy was kinda refreshing and Reed got his emotional character moments via his relationship with Sue. I never thought of them as anymore isolated than a typical urban family.

Apparently, there is a prequel comic out too, that gives more background on Sues connection to Moleman and similar relationships - has anyone seen it?

 

[DrunkonDuty]

I also liked the pace. It felt right. And even though I think that the isolation from the world effect that those editing decisions helped create was not entirely intentional* it still worked.

Some other random thoughts in no particular order:

Pedro Pascal's stubble. He's considered one of the sexiest men alive (and I see it.) I don't think he needs tips.

We do see Red Ghost! In a literal blink and miss it shot in the closing credits. And it's a wide shot. I had no idea it was John Malkovich until I read @Rabulias post above.

I loved seeing Sue prove herself the most powerful of the Four. I mean, we all know it. It just rarely makes it into the non-comics.

A shot I would have liked to have seen - when Galactus gets his balance back and he and Sue are at an impasse, Ben helps by knocking down the building G-man is hanging onto. I'd have liked to have seen him grab G's big ol' foot and flip him, in a homage to the opening credits from the 1968 cartoon. In the cartoon it's a teeny tiny Ben doing it to Doom, but whatever.




*at the time of initial shooting. I don't doubt that when everyone was in the edit suite and making the cuts that they were perfectly cogniscant of what effect they were having.

 

[Justice and Rule]

I also liked the pace. It felt right. And even though I think that the isolation from the world effect that those editing decisions helped create was not entirely intentional* it still worked.

For what it was, the pace was good. I have my problems with the movie, but it definitely cruised.

Some other random thoughts in no particular order:

Pedro Pascal's stubble. He's considered one of the sexiest men alive (and I see it.) I don't think he needs tips.

Reed and Johnny should always have facial hair.

Ben's beard in this was also pretty good and just funny to think about the mechanics of.

I loved seeing Sue prove herself the most powerful of the Four. I mean, we all know it. It just rarely makes it into the non-comics.

You gotta be careful with Sue because people want to turn her into Kim Suskind with her powers really quickly. But the movie did a fairly good job with showing off the forcefields and how powerful they are.

 

[chuckdee]

He might be like me - even when I'm freshly shaven, I still have a bit of a 5 o'clock shadow. Dark beard + pale skin.

He shaved it for some movie and said he hated how he looked.

 

[Justice and Rule]

He shaved it for some movie and said he hated how he looked.

Wonder Woman '84

It definitely gives him a... unique look.

 

[Staffan]

He shaved it for some movie and said he hated how he looked.

Being clean-shaven doesn't do Pedro Pascal any favors:

 

[Tonguez]

For what it was, the pace was good. I have my problems with the movie, but it definitely cruised.



Reed and Johnny should always have facial hair.

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Yep Reed should have a full beard or be clean shaven, its Pedro's sexy stubble look that doesnt fit Reed.

not so sure about Johnnys 70's moustache

 

[DrunkonDuty]

Johnny's 70s moustaches is wrong. So very very wrong.

 

[chuckdee]

Went to see it again, and I stand by everything I said earlier - one change I'd make, however, is to show a little more of the family's ties to the head of the future foundation and sue's ties to mole man, to make it more obvious about the isolation. Watching again, it's definitely how I thought it was.... they were symbols, not integrated into every day life.

 

[jian]

Finally watched it. Here’s what I loved:

1. The original expedition was official, not “my launch got cancelled so I stole the rocket with my friends” (which I’ve always thought was a terrible plot point in the FF’s origin, to start their careers with an act of incredible irresponsibility, so I’m very glad they fixed that). This means that all he members of the team, not just Reed, are world-class scientists or at least as competent and well trained as the average Star Trek protagonist. This is a massive improvement (sometimes it can feel in the comics like Reed is the only one allowed to do any science or thinking) and really helps the rest of the film, such as giving Johnny a really substantial role based on his having figured out multiple alien languages from a single phrase (which is an act of linguistic genius).
2. I love the casual sci-fi stuff, which feels very much like a modern FF story. Sure, their lab is frankly completely inadequate for the science they’re doing, but yup, they casually have a hyperdrive booster in orbit they made earlier and the world can build a hundred teleport stations to TELEPORT THE ENTIRE EARTH MILLIONS OF LIGHT YEARS in about a week.
3. And speaking of global cooperation, I love utopian Earth 828 and would like to move there at the first available opportunity. Racial and gender equality, 1960s stylings, global cooperation at the drop of a hat, incredibly advanced technology (just the display screens in the street, even), and no social media? And everyone puts down their torches and pitchforks after one frankly lacklustre speech from Sue about humanity being one happy family? Yeah, looks amazing, sign me up.
4. 500’ Galactus on screen! Fantastic.
5. I actually really liked the Galactus-Franklin plotline because it makes complete sense for the comics characters, and also gives us the punchline on the FF being worshipped early on. Yes, their choice is selfish, even if it’s one every parent would make, and the world has every right to resent them for it.

What I liked less:

• I agree that the movie lacks heart and emotional punch. The FF do feel detached from the world, maybe because it’s so utopian it doesn’t need them to do anything apart from entertainingly fight the Wizard on Saturdays.
• It all feels a bit anaemic, a bit washed out, rather like the film’s colour palette.

But overall, it’s very competently executed and I’m happy with it as a building block of the MCU.