Spoilers Interstellar

[MGibster]

We all take away something different.

My sister was in the US Navy, aviation, and when she saw Coop hop in the ship at the end of the movie to rescue Brand she said, "I can believe a lot of things, but don't tell me he can just jump into a brand new spaceship and automatically know how to pilot it." It's always funny how we have different lines in the sand for suspension of disbelief.

 

[dragoner]

That’s not how we’re using the word. We’re using it as colloquial shorthand for fanciful science fiction concepts. Because it’s quicker to type. We are all aware that the movie posits no supernatural elements.

Yeah, but when we get into talking about the force, even with midichlorians, it is like magic, Star Wars is really a Space Fantasy.

 

[Morrus]

My sister was in the US Navy, aviation, and when she saw Coop hop in the ship at the end of the movie to rescue Brand she said, "I can believe a lot of things, but don't tell me he can just jump into a brand new spaceship and automatically know how to pilot it." It's always funny how we have different lines in the sand for suspension of disbelief.

You’re replying to a comment about the emotional and relationship aspects of the movie.

 

[Morrus]

Yeah, but when we get into talking about the force, even with midichlorians, it is like magic, Star Wars is really a Space Fantasy.

Umm, we’re taking about Interstellar.

Sure, Star Wars is magic.

Man it must be non-sequitur day!

 

[dragoner]

Umm, we’re taking about Interstellar.

Sure, Star Wars is magic.

Man it must be non-sequitur day!

It's all aesthetics, it's what one expects from the genres, the difference between Interstellar, and Star Wars.

I know I jump from idea to idea, the middle feels like loquaciousness, rather just get the point across.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I have never made it through Inception or Tenet. Too long and confusing for me! I’ll take your word on their endings—I’ll likely never see for myself!

But I’ve seen Memento, The Prestige, the three Batman movies, Dunkirk, and Oppenheimer. So of the ones I’ve seen he stuck the landing every time (and I include the third Batman in that; I know it’s not well-lived but I think it’s excellent).

I would say the Prestige sticks the landing -- that's close to a perfect movie.

I think his two Dark Knight movies feel like the ending was written at a different time than the rest of the films, maybe even by different people, which I don't believe is actually the case.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

It's not really a big problem though. The important thing about Frankenstein isn't that you can't revivify a corpse via some chemically induced process, it's the philosophical implications of doing so along with how we treat our created life and really defines the story.

Frankenstein is not Hard SF and makes no claim to be.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Hmmmm...that comment made me search my brain for hard sci-fi movies that are still very entertaining. And I didn't have to search too hard: Alien and Aliens, two of my favourite films! And the science is pretty plausible in both.

They are not hard SF! Which is why they can get away with humans colonising extrasolar planets with travel times measured in years and decades rather than millennia, and aliens with acid blood that grow rapidly with no regard to conservation of energy.

Or what about The Martian - the initial dust storm and the final "Iron Man" scenes aside, it's pretty much hard science.

The Martian, on the other hand, by embracing the "hard" label, invites criticism for the sort of physics-bending shenanigans that would pass without notice in any non-SF movie.

What are some others?

Note: for me, a lot of what gets called "science fiction" is really fantasy in science drag: Star Wars franchise, Dune, etc.

AKA soft SF.

 

[Li Shenron]

It's all about the expectations. If you expect a scientific-solid movie and get a fantasy one, you'll be disappointed. If you expect a fantasy movie and get a scientific-solid one, you'll be disappointed as well. IMDB is ruined by plenty of zero/low-grade reviews by people who "I thought it was a funny movie but it was not, so I stopped watching after 10 minutes".

 

[Morrus]

Yesterday was the Hamilton Aviator ‘Coop’. Today I’m wearing the Hamilton Field ‘Murph’.