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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9209447">So, you're cherry-picking one area (tier 4ish, which I acknowledge is when AD&amp;D does get more slots) when I showed you that OVERALL what you claimed is factually untrue??Ok, I'll play your game (not even including Arcane Recovery this time...which it would be worse for you if I did):Level&nbsp;&nbsp; 1E&nbsp;&nbsp; 5E1st&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; vs.&nbsp; &nbsp; 2 --- 5E has twice as many2nd&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; vs.&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; --- 5E has 1.5x as many3rd&nbsp; &nbsp; 2,1&nbsp; &nbsp; vs.&nbsp;&nbsp; 4,2 -- 5E has twice as many...9th&nbsp; &nbsp; 4,3,3,2,1&nbsp; &nbsp; vs.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4,3,3,3,1 -- 5E still has more slotsYou claimed:I showed you this is untrue over the levels 5E has. You want to address it on a level-by-level basis and focus on a level of play very few people ever experience, yet claim it as a general statement?Your claim is wrong. I've not even added the optional spell slots in 5E gained through various feats.Now, this is a M-U vs. Wizard comparison, and if you want to examine Clerics and Druids you'll find AD&amp;D has more of an edge, but overall it is not &quot;several times more spell slots&quot; by any stretch of the imagination if you are looking at ALL the levels and want to make a general, and true, statement.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Guest 7037866, post: 9209447"] So, you're cherry-picking one area (tier 4ish, which I acknowledge is when AD&D does get more slots) when I showed you that OVERALL what you claimed is factually untrue?? Ok, I'll play your game ([B]not even including Arcane Recovery this time...which it would be worse for you if I did[/B]): Level 1E 5E 1st 1 vs. 2 --- 5E has twice as many 2nd 2 vs. 3 --- 5E has 1.5x as many 3rd 2,1 vs. 4,2 -- 5E has twice as many ... 9th 4,3,3,2,1 vs. 4,3,3,3,1 -- 5E [I]still[/I] has more slots You claimed: I showed you this is untrue over the levels 5E has. You want to address it on a level-by-level basis and focus on a level of play very few people ever experience, yet claim it as a general statement? Your claim is wrong. I've not even added the optional spell slots in 5E gained through various feats. Now, this is a M-U vs. Wizard comparison, and if you want to examine Clerics and Druids you'll find AD&D has more of an edge, but overall it is not "several times more spell slots" by any stretch of the imagination if you are looking at ALL the levels and want to make a general, and true, statement. [/QUOTE]

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