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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mirzabah" data-source="post: 181138" data-attributes="member: 3211">Leaving aside the fact that this kind of intra-party conflict is appropriate only for seven year olds...The act of casting a spell immediately puts them into a "combat situation." The same applies for any other combat action.In this case you might like to give the rogue a listen check - albeit against a tough DC.Sense Motive vs. Bluff. Take into account the fact that the rogue is expecting the bard to cast a spell, so the bard gets a bonus on his Bluff roll.Sense Motive vs. Bluff again. This time the bard gets a penalty because if he's going to cast a spell, he's going to have a hard time looking all innocent beforehand.In all cases, if the rogue fails his check then there is a surprise round in which the bard gets a partial action and the rogue does nothing. The next round is a normal combat round. I can't recall exactly how waking up is handled, but it's in the rules somewhere.Personally I think you should drop a tarrasque on the pair of them... and keep doing it until they roll up characters that get along.btw, did you really mean to spell your username "Cuthulhu" instead of "Cthulhu"?</blockquote>