Catwoman Movie (threads merged)

[ForceUser]

Its just type-casting. Duncan made a name for himself playing black guys early in his career, and now those are the only roles he gets.

Har har.

 

[WizarDru]

Bwa-Ha-Ha! Oh, that's rich. LOL.

 

[WizarDru]

I haven't read a Marvel book in 5 years or so, so I'm not certain about how things are now, but they used to describe the organization as the "Maggia". Obviously, this is a take off of Maffia. I'm not sure why Marvel didn't just use Maffia.

This was Marvel in the '70s. They did a bunch of things like this, to stay within the CCA stamp of approval. For example, there were no zombies in Marvel titles during the 70s....instead, we had [drumroll......] Zuvembies.

Really.

There was a lot of legal action going on about even using the term "Mafia" in the 70s, and while it was a hot-button topic, it was also a potentially dangerous and more importantly litigious one. Back in those days, most of the writers and editors still had the ban clear in their minds. Remember that Spiderman's 'drug' issues with his friend Harry were extremely contraversial, at the time.

So, instead of the Mafia, we had the Maggia, who was, in fact, just a 'super-gang' of smaller gangs, ruled by a super-secretive star-council. The Hobgoblin, for example, crashed one of their little secret meetings and confonted the hooded leaders, warning them of a potentially changing order. To my knowledge, Kingpin was NEVER associated with the Maggia, but in fact was their chief rival.

You can read a good write-up HERE.

 

[Villano]

This was Marvel in the '70s. They did a bunch of things like this, to stay within the CCA stamp of approval. For example, there were no zombies in Marvel titles during the 70s....instead, we had [drumroll......] Zuvembies.

Really.

There was a lot of legal action going on about even using the term "Mafia" in the 70s, and while it was a hot-button topic, it was also a potentially dangerous and more importantly litigious one. Back in those days, most of the writers and editors still had the ban clear in their minds. Remember that Spiderman's 'drug' issues with his friend Harry were extremely contraversial, at the time.

So, instead of the Mafia, we had the Maggia, who was, in fact, just a 'super-gang' of smaller gangs, ruled by a super-secretive star-council. The Hobgoblin, for example, crashed one of their little secret meetings and confonted the hooded leaders, warning them of a potentially changing order. To my knowledge, Kingpin was NEVER associated with the Maggia, but in fact was their chief rival.

You can read a good write-up HERE.

I could have sworn that Kingpin was part of the Maggia write up in the Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe (along with Justin Hammer and Kingpin's son). I thought perhaps the link you supplied had a little retroactive rewriting, however, I went back and looked in the OHotMU, and, sure enough, he wasn't.

I realize now that I was thinking of Hydra.

I still think it's stupid linking Kingpin to Hydra, an evil, world-conquering, super-spy organization. They're a bit "apples and oranges".

I'm sure, over the years, writers have messed up and said Kingpin was part of the Maggia, though. I remember an issue of Spider-Man which had a line about Kingpin meeting with "other Maggia heads" or some such.

BTW, do they still have the Maggia? It seems about time to just drop it and go with Mafia.

 

[Uruk]

As for the Flash buzz, WB wanted to make a time-travelling show, where the hero goes back in time to set wrongs right. Then someone with a pea for a brain suggested they did a "Smallville" approach with the Flash. He's a young Gothamite (!!!!) who can run so fast, he can travel through time (!!!!),

Well, in the 60s he used to do that all the time via a time treadmill.

 

[Klaus]

Well, in the 60s he used to do that all the time via a time treadmill.

Yes, the Cosmic Treadmill, which caused him to travel between dimensions (to meet Flash I) and through time (where he married longtime girlfriend Iris West). That ability was the reason the Anti-Monitor kidnapped Flash in the beginning of Crisis, to keep him from coordinating time-spanning resistance to the Antimatter Universe attack.

That became a relic when Wally West mastered time-travelling, but it's never a lightly-taken decision, and everytime Wally runs that fast, he risks losing himself into the Speed Force (the energy field where all speedsters draw their kinetic energy from).

That still doesn't make this "Flash"-show a good idea...

 

[jdavis]

Well this thread took a unexpected turn, look it doesn't matter if Michael Clark Duncan played Catwoman when you are talking about fighting a "evil cosmetics company". Could somebody explain to me how a cosmetics company could be "evil"? Do they have a eyeliner pencil that will allow them to take over the world? hypno-nail polish? Plastic explosive lipstick? It doesn't matter who is in the movie about evil cosmetics it's going to be bad. Although I'd go see it if Michael Clark Duncan played catwoman, that would be a riot.

By the way, Directed by: Pitof? Who or what is a Pitof?

 

[ColonelHardisson]

Even with that fact, she still would look better in the leather than Halle.

Bearing in mind this is all just personal taste, I have to say I totally and utterly disagree with you Ashley Judd is great looking, but Halle Berry in a cat suit...wow. I'm all for that. What I'm not so sure about is that plot synopsis/tidbit.

 

[Tarrasque Wrangler]

Could somebody explain to me how a cosmetics company could be "evil"?

You ask me, they're all evil. Even if you take away the whole animal testing thing, you're talking about an industry that basically preys on women's physical insecurities. My girlfriend looks beautiful and she never needs to touch the stuff.

Sorry for the rant. Cosmetics make me angry.

 

[jdavis]

You ask me, they're all evil. Even if you take away the whole animal testing thing, you're talking about an industry that basically preys on women's physical insecurities. My girlfriend looks beautiful and she never needs to touch the stuff.

Sorry for the rant. Cosmetics make me angry.

Well animal testing really isn't evil when your doing it to make sure your product isn't harmful to humans (misguided yes, but not evil), and as far as preying on a women's physical insecurities, well that wouldn't make for much of a exciting superhero flick, Catwoman 2 she could go after the "evil" diet industry.