Cavalier article up: Mounts galore!

[Klaus]

Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (The Cavalier's Steed)

The article presents an alternate 4th-level power for the Cavalier paladin that summons a celestial warhorse (charge bonus, kick and trample). New Mounted Combat feats give access to more encounter powers, and Improved Mount feats give improved mounts (celestial tiger at Heroic, celestial behemoth and celestial pegasus at paragon and Large silver dragon at Epic). There's also a new figurine, the Jade Horse, for those non-Cavalier characters wishing for some mount goodness.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

In the rules compendium nothing states, that mounted combat feat takes away the -2 penalty for mount attacks. Is this the reason why the munt attacks with level +7?

Is there a generic mounted combat feat?

 

[Bagpuss]

In the rules compendium nothing states, that mounted combat feat takes away the -2 penalty for mount attacks. Is this the reason why the munt attacks with level +7?

Is there a generic mounted combat feat?

What -2 penalty for mounted attacks? Where did that come from?

 

[Klaus]

What -2 penalty for mounted attacks? Where did that come from?

DMG 1, page 46:

The mount takes a -2 penalty to attack rolls unless the rider has the Mounted Combat feat.

 

[whearp]

You make an interesting observation there. Reading through the mounted combat section of my rules compendium, I notice no mention of the mounted combat feat or the need of any feat at all to have complete use of the mount and its abilities.

The only mention of a -2 is to say that the mount takes a -2 penalty to attack rolls when it has no rider.

There is also no mention of the mounted combat feat in HotFK or this article from what I can see. I wonder if the feat is completely unnecessary now.

 

[Klaus]

You make an interesting observation there. Reading through the mounted combat section of my rules compendium, I notice no mention of the mounted combat feat or the need of any feat at all to have complete use of the mount and its abilities.

The only mention of a -2 is to say that the mount takes a -2 penalty to attack rolls when it has no rider.

There is also no mention of the mounted combat feat in HotFK or this article from what I can see. I wonder if the feat is completely unnecessary now.

The mounted combat section of the Rules Compendium simpyl states "a mount takes a -2 penalty to attack rolls", and then says that a mount without a rider rarely attacks on its own, usually avoinding combat.

 

[whearp]

The mounted combat section of the Rules Compendium simpyl states "a mount takes a -2 penalty to attack rolls", and then says that a mount without a rider rarely attacks on its own, usually avoinding combat.

Okay, I see that now... that's a little confusing. I have no idea what the deal is, then.

Does that -2 always apply, or only when the mount is taking actions on its own? See, what I'm saying is this. Is the mount taking an action if the rider activates the attack? What I'm thinking is that the penalty doesn't apply when you're spurring the mount to attack.

 

[Bagpuss]

DMG 1, page 46:

And here's me looking for information about attack modifiers in the Attack Modifiers section of the PHB, or stuff about Mounts in the mounts section, or about the Mounted Combat feat in the feats section. How stupid of me.

 

[Bagpuss]

The mounted combat section of the Rules Compendium simpyl states "a mount takes a -2 penalty to attack rolls", and then says that a mount without a rider rarely attacks on its own, usually avoinding combat.

Excellent I'm going to bring this rule up next time we are attacked by a riderless dragon, or other creature suitable as a riding beast.

 

[Klaus]

Excellent I'm going to bring this rule up next time we are attacked by a riderless dragon, or other creature suitable as a riding beast.

A riderless dragon, I wouldn't know. A riderless rage drake (which does have the mount keyword), maybe.