LordEntrails
Hero
So there I am, laying out a nice little encounter for my adventure. Going to have this nice big cave with a fisher in it. You now, the age old cave fisher who's filament can reel in a 200 lb "catch".
Cool, I'm all for that, but the Adhesive Filament trait just talks about the grapple effect and if the filaments attack. And the Filament attack doesn't say jack about the attack itself. Only that (once again) the target is grappled and the strength of the filament.
This was briefly discussed when Volos came out here, but not much was really said and it seems to me that the issue is still not clear.
So, are people playing this that the attack always hits and then on the targets turn it can try a grapple to break free? But the attack starts by assuming the target is already grappled by the filament...
I can see some situations where the filament is just hanging in a doorway; and I would rule a perception check to see it before walking into it. But what if the fisher is on the ceiling and doesn't lower it until it sees a target? And tries to "cast" it onto the target (after all, it has a range of 60 feet). Is their a dex save to not be hit and grappled? Do you get an immediate grapple save/check? Does the fisher have to "hit" with the cast?
Cool, I'm all for that, but the Adhesive Filament trait just talks about the grapple effect and if the filaments attack. And the Filament attack doesn't say jack about the attack itself. Only that (once again) the target is grappled and the strength of the filament.
This was briefly discussed when Volos came out here, but not much was really said and it seems to me that the issue is still not clear.
So, are people playing this that the attack always hits and then on the targets turn it can try a grapple to break free? But the attack starts by assuming the target is already grappled by the filament...
I can see some situations where the filament is just hanging in a doorway; and I would rule a perception check to see it before walking into it. But what if the fisher is on the ceiling and doesn't lower it until it sees a target? And tries to "cast" it onto the target (after all, it has a range of 60 feet). Is their a dex save to not be hit and grappled? Do you get an immediate grapple save/check? Does the fisher have to "hit" with the cast?
