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Chainmail Bikinis & other Cheesecake art in the 4th Edition Core Books.
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<blockquote data-quote="small pumpkin man" data-source="post: 3967057" data-attributes="member: 57910"><p>In retrospect, I think I was picking up on a bunch of other things and assumed this. Females posing for the camera is quite common and annoying in fantasy pictures however.</p><p></p><p>Good skin looks different to makeup. That looks like makeup to me, I can't prove anything, but if the original model was a bikini model, I'll feel somewhat vindicated.</p><p></p><p>Oh, absolutely, I don't expect the conscious reaction from most people to be "that's a prostitute", but she is more sexualized because of it, and people do notice(whether or not they think it's a good thing), it's just often unconscious and they're often unsure of why when asked. Note that one of the few pictures in 3e which people complained about being "too cheesecaky" was the frenzied berserker, who is only really showing the upper thighs and arms, IMO the problem was the cultural idea that only showing the upper thighs in that way is generally only seen in sexual contexts.</p><p></p><p>The appropriate picture is appropriate because she isn't attempting to be armoured, it's assumed either she's just lounging around or she'd prevent attacks with magic, as opposed to the picture in question, where she's obviously outfit for war, but deliberately has large holes in the armour with the intention of appearing sexy. She's uncomfortable without gaining the proper possible protection, and she's putting sexy above health and safety.</p><p></p><p>The point of the shown picture was to show I'm not against hot, mostly naked women in D&D, but merely against it when inappropriate, if a character is outfitted for battle, it's not actually impossible, or even particularly hard to show them as attractive without putting big holes in the armour(as this thread alone shows), most D&D artists just don't seem to try however.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, maybe, I do know women who don't care, women who would like that as a character as well as women who consider the art to be silly and emblematic of the nature of the game as a make orientated hobby. I also know a lot of guys who think it's silly don't want it near their games. It's very late here, I should be in bed, and this is a multi layered issue, so I'm not going to attempt to discuss this right now.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, hear you on that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="small pumpkin man, post: 3967057, member: 57910"] In retrospect, I think I was picking up on a bunch of other things and assumed this. Females posing for the camera is quite common and annoying in fantasy pictures however. Good skin looks different to makeup. That looks like makeup to me, I can't prove anything, but if the original model was a bikini model, I'll feel somewhat vindicated. Oh, absolutely, I don't expect the conscious reaction from most people to be "that's a prostitute", but she is more sexualized because of it, and people do notice(whether or not they think it's a good thing), it's just often unconscious and they're often unsure of why when asked. Note that one of the few pictures in 3e which people complained about being "too cheesecaky" was the frenzied berserker, who is only really showing the upper thighs and arms, IMO the problem was the cultural idea that only showing the upper thighs in that way is generally only seen in sexual contexts. The appropriate picture is appropriate because she isn't attempting to be armoured, it's assumed either she's just lounging around or she'd prevent attacks with magic, as opposed to the picture in question, where she's obviously outfit for war, but deliberately has large holes in the armour with the intention of appearing sexy. She's uncomfortable without gaining the proper possible protection, and she's putting sexy above health and safety. The point of the shown picture was to show I'm not against hot, mostly naked women in D&D, but merely against it when inappropriate, if a character is outfitted for battle, it's not actually impossible, or even particularly hard to show them as attractive without putting big holes in the armour(as this thread alone shows), most D&D artists just don't seem to try however. Yeah, maybe, I do know women who don't care, women who would like that as a character as well as women who consider the art to be silly and emblematic of the nature of the game as a make orientated hobby. I also know a lot of guys who think it's silly don't want it near their games. It's very late here, I should be in bed, and this is a multi layered issue, so I'm not going to attempt to discuss this right now. Yeah, hear you on that. [/QUOTE]
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