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<blockquote data-quote="ObsidianCrane" data-source="post: 4008073" data-attributes="member: 54918"><p>Art is part of product identity and marketing, and while I have no personal objections to cheesecake, when viewed in terms of marketing and product identity I can only say no.</p><p></p><p>I mean I like Artesia (<a href="http://www.daradja.com/artesia.php" target="_blank">http://www.daradja.com/artesia.php</a>) a lot, and despite her appearing nude on several pages of the preview comic nothing about it strikes me as particularly cheesecake like either - because its contextually appropriate. Notice when she is not in private she goes fully clothed, or armored - no peep holes in sight. Yet from reading the comic you learn that she is considered "hot" in the setting and is generous with her affections. That kind of being the point - you don't need to get about half naked to get the opposite sex interested in you.</p><p></p><p>People making comparisons to modern clothing styles are also missing the point that modern clothing is largely based around control of environment and modern (Western derived) ideas of beauty.</p><p></p><p>That's half the issue with Fantasy art the stereotypes are derived entirely from modern Western culture. Not sure about that, consider the definitions for beauty in Asian cultures vs Western ones. (The appeal of the nape of the neck in Japan for example...its why the kimono of geisha and whores are worn to expose the nape of the neck and top of the back.)</p><p></p><p>It would be nice if Fantasy art tried to establish a culture that wasn't just modern style with swords and armor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ObsidianCrane, post: 4008073, member: 54918"] Art is part of product identity and marketing, and while I have no personal objections to cheesecake, when viewed in terms of marketing and product identity I can only say no. I mean I like Artesia ([url]http://www.daradja.com/artesia.php[/url]) a lot, and despite her appearing nude on several pages of the preview comic nothing about it strikes me as particularly cheesecake like either - because its contextually appropriate. Notice when she is not in private she goes fully clothed, or armored - no peep holes in sight. Yet from reading the comic you learn that she is considered "hot" in the setting and is generous with her affections. That kind of being the point - you don't need to get about half naked to get the opposite sex interested in you. People making comparisons to modern clothing styles are also missing the point that modern clothing is largely based around control of environment and modern (Western derived) ideas of beauty. That's half the issue with Fantasy art the stereotypes are derived entirely from modern Western culture. Not sure about that, consider the definitions for beauty in Asian cultures vs Western ones. (The appeal of the nape of the neck in Japan for example...its why the kimono of geisha and whores are worn to expose the nape of the neck and top of the back.) It would be nice if Fantasy art tried to establish a culture that wasn't just modern style with swords and armor. [/QUOTE]
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