D&D (2024) Chance for a warlord?

[LuisCarlos17f]

A warlord class is possible when there are homemade versions and by 3PPs, for example the captain by Mage Hand Press.

We are talking about a class that should be useful but power balance in mass battles.

How to explain it? Let's imagine a videogame studio is licenced to create a strategy D&D videogame, and they design a warlord class. After with the playtesting they discover and learn a lot of things, and the warlord has to be redesigned. Then there is a open beta with lots of players, and these discover new things, or combos that break the balance.

It isn't a "this door can't be opened" but "I would need a lot of time and work".

What subclasses would be possible for a warlord class?

 

[CreamCloud0]

On the positive, yes it can go anywhere. On the negative, there is less need for them to devote resources to it. You can't do Eberron without the artificer. You can't do Dark Sun without psionics. Thus, resources get devoted to them. I just think that those two classes were going to have to be covered eventually if they were to do those settings. Warlord? I don't know if the same necessities are there.

Please don't take that as my not wanting the class, but pointing out psion and Artificer have settings that give them extra weight.

yeah it's basically

PRO: it CAN be included anywhere

CON: it doesn't NEED to be included anywhere

 

[Frozen_Heart]

The main benefit the Warlord has its like one of the 5 things from older edition that hasn't been converted that has fans.

The Warlord and Psion are the only old classes that can be reintroduced as new that a lot of people care about.

Swordmage still has a lot of people who want it as well. I'd put it alongside warlord and psion there too.

It's probably the class I see people ask for the most.

 

[Corinnguard]

Swordmage still has a lot of people who want it as well. I'd put it alongside warlord and psion there too.

It's probably the class I see people ask for the most.

If the launch of @Steampunkette 's Martial Artistry meets one of its' stretch goals, we might get a Swordmage class for everyone to try out.

 

[TwoSix]

10/10. Would not shoot.

Sheriff is definitely 0/10, would shoot.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

How do you feel about the deputy?

I did not shoot him, for sure.

 

[Mistwell]

And if a portion of the D&D audience doesn't like that idea? Too freaking bad. They've had 12-14 years of getting their way, so if they don't like this new way of suggesting hit point return... they don't have to use the class.

That isn't how this system works. You know it needs to get wide approval in playtesting to get greenlit as a new class. You've had 12-14 years of experience with their survey and playtest system. If you don't like the system WOTC uses to decide on if a new class is approved...

 

[Distracted DM]

I have to imagine that Mearls was the one that had nostalgia for the Warlord, I remember, him noodling around with design for it on his stream years ago… it was probably more of a passion thing than a response to demand. The new folk in wotc probably don’t have that nostalgia… but maybe someone there does! So it’s… incredibly unlikely, but hey maybe

Edit: I have to wonder if folk that don’t like current offerings such as the A5E marshal are more disliking the difference between 4e and 5e gameplay? The warlord isn’t going to play the exact way you remember because 5e is just fundamentally different. Or is it just a subconscious brand recognition thing?

 

[DEFCON 1]

That isn't how this system works. You know it needs to get wide approval in playtesting to get greenlit as a new class. You've had 12-14 years of experience with their survey and playtest system. If you don't like the system WOTC uses to decide on if a new class is approved...

Well of course. My comment was referencing people under the assumption that the product had gotten made. If the Warlord gets made with non-magical healing of hit points, those people who are bothered by that will just have to deal.

 

[Corinnguard]

I have to imagine that Mearls was the one that had nostalgia for the Warlord, I remember, him noodling around with design for it on his stream years ago… it was probably more of a passion thing than a response to demand. The new folk in wotc probably don’t have that nostalgia… but maybe someone there does! So it’s… incredibly unlikely, but hey maybe

Edit: I have to wonder if folk that don’t like current offerings such as the A5E marshal are more disliking the difference between 4e and 5e gameplay? The warlord isn’t going to play the exact way you remember because 5e is just fundamentally different. Or is it just a subconscious brand recognition thing?

It could be that for some, the 4e Warlord simply raised the bar so high that they won't be satisfied with another version, be it the Marshall class from A5e or even a potential Warlord 2.0 for WoTC's 5e. It's hard to say if it's a conscious or subconscious decision on their part. It's also hard to say if this even extends to the work from 3pp sources such as Laser Llama, who also brewed up his own Warlord class for 5e.

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