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<blockquote data-quote="Wisdom Penalty" data-source="post: 4608244" data-attributes="member: 13287"><p>Like the late great John Candy, I'm an easy target.</p><p></p><p>Look...I did have nuts once. Before I got married and before we started playing 3e. I'm not trying to blame 3e for my faults, but I definitely noticed a change between 1e and 3e insofar as my DMing was concerned.</p><p></p><p>In 1e, I made judgment calls. Sometimes I even had to make rules, because nothing existed to cover the situation. My players accepted this process for three reasons: (1) it's what everyone did back then, (2) they thought I had a modicum of intelligence, and (3) they trusted I wasn't out to screw them.</p><p></p><p>But 3e came along and things started to change. Why? I'd submit because there was a rule for nearly everything. Not at once, mind you, but over the evolution of the game and the expansion of splats. Want to kip up from prone as a free action? There's a DC somewhere in some book for that. Want to climb with a rope while bracing against two walls? There's a DC somewhere. Bad examples, I know, but I don't feel like revisiting that.</p><p></p><p>So suddenly I started walking forward on shaky steps. I couldn't make judgment calls because I was fearful that in some book, somewhere, there was a <strong>RULE</strong> that governed that action. </p><p></p><p>So, yes, I lost my balls. But it was a slow, gradual castration that went unnoticed until 4e came forward and said: "Dude, stop being a p----. Your player wants to do something? Figure out a DC and roll with it."</p><p></p><p>So mock me, Mr. Ratbane - I'm not so much of a schlep that I don't recognize my own shortcomings. I bet, however, that my pathetic story is not an outlier. </p><p></p><p>At some point, the Rules trumped the DM. Some folks like that, some don't. I'm in the latter category.</p><p></p><p>Keepin' it real since June '08,</p><p>WP</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wisdom Penalty, post: 4608244, member: 13287"] Like the late great John Candy, I'm an easy target. Look...I did have nuts once. Before I got married and before we started playing 3e. I'm not trying to blame 3e for my faults, but I definitely noticed a change between 1e and 3e insofar as my DMing was concerned. In 1e, I made judgment calls. Sometimes I even had to make rules, because nothing existed to cover the situation. My players accepted this process for three reasons: (1) it's what everyone did back then, (2) they thought I had a modicum of intelligence, and (3) they trusted I wasn't out to screw them. But 3e came along and things started to change. Why? I'd submit because there was a rule for nearly everything. Not at once, mind you, but over the evolution of the game and the expansion of splats. Want to kip up from prone as a free action? There's a DC somewhere in some book for that. Want to climb with a rope while bracing against two walls? There's a DC somewhere. Bad examples, I know, but I don't feel like revisiting that. So suddenly I started walking forward on shaky steps. I couldn't make judgment calls because I was fearful that in some book, somewhere, there was a [b]RULE[/b] that governed that action. So, yes, I lost my balls. But it was a slow, gradual castration that went unnoticed until 4e came forward and said: "Dude, stop being a p----. Your player wants to do something? Figure out a DC and roll with it." So mock me, Mr. Ratbane - I'm not so much of a schlep that I don't recognize my own shortcomings. I bet, however, that my pathetic story is not an outlier. At some point, the Rules trumped the DM. Some folks like that, some don't. I'm in the latter category. Keepin' it real since June '08, WP [/QUOTE]
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