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<blockquote data-quote="merelycompetent" data-source="post: 4610367" data-attributes="member: 33830">I voted: Tried 4E, went back to an earlier edition.I read the previews with relish. I really liked what the designers were talking about - especially making 4E more DM-friendly, and supporting high-level play. I was a little nervous about the warnings that existing campaigns would not be (easily) convertible to 4E, but took a wait-and-see approach.Then I got the 4E Core Rules, and my jaw hit the floor.The campaign world that I have worked on through four editions of the game was incompatible with the race and cosmology changes. Some of the class changes, on read-through, would require reworking parts of the campaign setting. There was no conversion available to go from 3.5E to 4E. On top of that, I'd have to wait for certain classes to be published that used to be considered core - such as the Druid. I'd end up re-designing and re-writing too much of my main campaign setting to handle 4E mechanics. As a DM with this campaign world, I am no longer part of WotC's target customer base.As a player, I'm very open to 4E. I'd love to really take the rules for a test run. As a DM, I'm willing to run some one-shots to really see if the new mechanics work like I think they will. But unless inspiration strikes in a good way, someone else comes up with a usable conversion, or I decide to scrap my main campaign setting, I'm going to just cherry-pick some ideas, and not purchase anything beyond the 4E Core Rules.Don't get me wrong: 4E looks *cool*. And if I ever scrap my main campaign setting, I'll probably use it (if it's still the main supported edition). But that is not likely to happen soon with characters at only 13th level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="merelycompetent, post: 4610367, member: 33830"] I voted: Tried 4E, went back to an earlier edition. I read the previews with relish. I really liked what the designers were talking about - especially making 4E more DM-friendly, and supporting high-level play. I was a little nervous about the warnings that existing campaigns would not be (easily) convertible to 4E, but took a wait-and-see approach. Then I got the 4E Core Rules, and my jaw hit the floor. The campaign world that I have worked on through four editions of the game was incompatible with the race and cosmology changes. Some of the class changes, on read-through, would require reworking parts of the campaign setting. There was no conversion available to go from 3.5E to 4E. On top of that, I'd have to wait for certain classes to be published that used to be considered core - such as the Druid. I'd end up re-designing and re-writing too much of my main campaign setting to handle 4E mechanics. As a DM with this campaign world, I am no longer part of WotC's target customer base. As a player, I'm very open to 4E. I'd love to really take the rules for a test run. As a DM, I'm willing to run some one-shots to really see if the new mechanics work like I think they will. But unless inspiration strikes in a good way, someone else comes up with a usable conversion, or I decide to scrap my main campaign setting, I'm going to just cherry-pick some ideas, and not purchase anything beyond the 4E Core Rules. Don't get me wrong: 4E looks *cool*. And if I ever scrap my main campaign setting, I'll probably use it (if it's still the main supported edition). But that is not likely to happen soon with characters at only 13th level. [/QUOTE]

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