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<blockquote data-quote="Dragon Snack" data-source="post: 4631947" data-attributes="member: 9810"><p>While I'm going to respond to people, I should point out that even though I'm not playing any D&D right now, when I return it will be 3.x and not 4.0. I'm not arguing FOR 4.0, I'm advocating an objective look at the numbers presented. I'm looking at the potential market for editions.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree with you, but you are assuming things outside the purview of this poll. Who's to say how many "No Change" people were also "one book" people? After all, if one book got you by in 3.x, then it probably serves your purposes. Why buy a new edition?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Where did I claim that? My claim was that if you are playing you are in the 'market' for a new book, far more so than if you are not playing.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The assertion was not 1/3 are playing, it was that 2/3 are NOT. 59% are not, that is also not my <em>opinion</em>.</p><p></p><p>59%=/=66%...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Here's a funny thing, I used to have a quote <em>from you</em> in my sig about 4.0 and "the smell coming from the kitchen". I think we're in agreement about 4.0, my quibble is the inflation of the numbers in this poll.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Do you realize you said that "people chose, not me, how they would respond to this poll" and then proceeded to say you "factored in" a bunch of people who posted they no longer play to inflate your numbers?</p><p></p><p>6 out of 10 I can live with. It still rounds up from the actual responses that you got, but it's certainly closer than saying 2/3. It is also probably within the 'margin of error' for the poll.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There was a poll on Reaper's message boards that, if you took off the "I play something else" option, gave you similar results (far fewer responses however). Surprising, given the number of people who have asked for Dragonborn minis or converted minis into Dragonborn over there. Anecdotally, they also sold out of quite a few of their Reptus (the Lizardfolk/Dragonfolk faction of their Warlord game) minis at Gen Con.</p><p></p><p>I've seen similar results on other smaller message boards as well, but I wasn't surprised at those numbers, given the population of those boards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dragon Snack, post: 4631947, member: 9810"] While I'm going to respond to people, I should point out that even though I'm not playing any D&D right now, when I return it will be 3.x and not 4.0. I'm not arguing FOR 4.0, I'm advocating an objective look at the numbers presented. I'm looking at the potential market for editions. I agree with you, but you are assuming things outside the purview of this poll. Who's to say how many "No Change" people were also "one book" people? After all, if one book got you by in 3.x, then it probably serves your purposes. Why buy a new edition? Where did I claim that? My claim was that if you are playing you are in the 'market' for a new book, far more so than if you are not playing. The assertion was not 1/3 are playing, it was that 2/3 are NOT. 59% are not, that is also not my [i]opinion[/i]. 59%=/=66%... Here's a funny thing, I used to have a quote [i]from you[/i] in my sig about 4.0 and "the smell coming from the kitchen". I think we're in agreement about 4.0, my quibble is the inflation of the numbers in this poll. Do you realize you said that "people chose, not me, how they would respond to this poll" and then proceeded to say you "factored in" a bunch of people who posted they no longer play to inflate your numbers? 6 out of 10 I can live with. It still rounds up from the actual responses that you got, but it's certainly closer than saying 2/3. It is also probably within the 'margin of error' for the poll. There was a poll on Reaper's message boards that, if you took off the "I play something else" option, gave you similar results (far fewer responses however). Surprising, given the number of people who have asked for Dragonborn minis or converted minis into Dragonborn over there. Anecdotally, they also sold out of quite a few of their Reptus (the Lizardfolk/Dragonfolk faction of their Warlord game) minis at Gen Con. I've seen similar results on other smaller message boards as well, but I wasn't surprised at those numbers, given the population of those boards. [/QUOTE]
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