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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 4635146" data-attributes="member: 2020">(solemnly)  This is a poll about D&D, yes.  But would you prefer another endless thread, of hundreds of posts, about whether 4E is relevant versus 3E, or D&D versus Pathfinder, or ENWorld versus other messageboards, or Old Hands versus New People?  We already have those threads aplenty, and certainly enough posts about them in this thread.  The spirit that kindled D&D is the spirit that kindled Star Fleet Battles and ECM.  They both arise from the same spring.  The enthusiasm and hot blooded passion enabled them both.    Now, that enthusiasm is gone.  Star Fleet Battles is gone.  Dragon Magazine is gone.  Dungeon Magazine is gone.  And there is a VERY real chance that Dungeons and Dragons is going to be gone.  That Hasbro is going to lock it away, and keep the copyrights.  And that, in these grim times, all the successor games will collapse (Pathfinder included.)  And then there will be no more Hobby.  I could spend my extra posts discussing this.  It would most certainly be On Topic, since it relates directly to this poll.  But, is that the kind of thing we really *want* to talk about?  Or isn't it self-evident, isn't that something we all already know?  Isn't something we know, and wish we didn't know about?  You find offense at a few posts about Star Fleet Battles?  (Not Star Trek ... the two are almost totally unrelated, except the names.)  You find offense at a few light hearted posts, when there is a real threat of our Hobby collapsing, everyone knows it, and I choose not to talk about it because everyone knows it, has heard it over and over, has seen it happen with Dragon and Dungeon, and for heaven's sake haven't they had enough of it?  Very well.  I'll go along with your line of thinking.  I'll discuss only the On Topic material.  I won't lighten things with my offensive humor.  I won't try to lighten a dark situation.  I'll talk about the horror stories I've heard.  I'll talk about the collapse of gaming stores.  The collapse of settings.  The collapse of magazines.  The anger and the hatred running amok.  The imminent end of D&D, if things continue to go as they are going.  But hey, at least I won't be talking about that offensive ECM out of the merry (and now pretty much dead) game of Star Fleet Battles, will I?</blockquote>

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