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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 4635158" data-attributes="member: 2020">(ANGER)  Changeover:  33%  No Changeover:  58%  Partial Changeover:  9%  Option 6:  9%  It has become an established thing that two opposed camps, enjoying mutual antipathy (or far worse), exist, between those who play 4E and those who play earlier editions.  This nice little set of affairs was created by the behavior of Hasbro, which said:  You shall play it out way, or you are out of the Hobby.  Our way, is the only way, and if you do not like that, leave!  This fed a wellspring of anger and hatred that led to a Flame War, which has destroyed friendships, wrecked messageboards, and hurt us all.  Hasbro?  They couldn't care less, it would appear.  Well, the 4E camp gained 1% this last time around, and the 3E camp lost 1%.  I suppose this will make the 4E camp very happy, and take that! 3Ers.  I mean, after all, aren't the 4Eers saying your older edition stinks, and that it should be relegated to the dust bin of history?  Isn't Hasbro saying that, too?  And now, they have an extra 1% on you to prove their case.  Of course, as the results from RPGnet show, if they are right, YOU are relics of a by-gone time, Old Hands from another era, and perhaps you should be relegated to the dust bin of history too.  They seem to think ENWorld is full of relics like you, that ENWorld stands alone in this, that you are passé and when you are gone, things will be better.  Why do I say this?  Because they've said all this, over and over and over (and implied it even more.)  I don't think that way, but they do, and they will be very happy to have that extra 1%.  More power to them, and all the worst for you.  Meanwhile, a large group of people who were trying to have something called 'fun' were caught in the middle.  Trying 4E, they found it was no fun, and either left the Hobby, left D&D, or went back to earlier editions, for which they have no official support (which they deserve, but they won't get, and the 4E people seem to agree they shouldn't get any support.  How dare they ask for support?  What have they done, to deserve support, the wretches?)    And there are a few people, titanically struggling, who play all the editions, despite the fact that everyone is denouncing them, everyone is trying to tell them what edition they HAVE to play, what edition is good for them, what form of thinking is right and which form of thinking is incorrect, and perfectly willing to flame them, bash them, denounce them, for not toeing the party line (or someone else's line, or whoever's line.)  All of this, of course, is extremely appealing to the Young.  The Young really enjoy watching older people fight and hate, turning our Hobby into one giant Edition War, turn our messageboards into bloodbaths, turn fun into anger, turn fantasy into despair, turn a good time into wreckage.  Why, the Young enjoy this so much, that few indeed are willing to come into the Hobby.  Even if they had no other options, they would not come (would you, if you were a 16 year old?  Or don't you have enough trouble in your life as it is?)  Of course, an IMMENSE amount of competition exists, and so the Young go to those sources, and enjoy themselves there, and spend their money (what little there is) there, and they do not come to our Hobby, the future of our Hobby dims and fails some more, Hasbro tries it's stiff-arm tactics in vain to win them over while driving away or splitting the Old Hands market, and the whole thing is collapsing like a House of Cards.  There.  Enjoy the new format?  We can't have a few humorous posts about ECM, from a game that was fun.  No, we must talk about the dreadful reality.  We have a hundred other threads, with a thousand posts each, discussing, arguing, fighting, fighting to the death, over the dreadful reality ... but we cannot have a few humorous posts.  No sir.  So, here's your new format.  Enjoy it?  I didn't think so.  Edena_of_Neith</blockquote>

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