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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8065005" data-attributes="member: 18">Medicis? Yes, absolutely some of them knew how to run a farm. You seem to be entirely ignorant of history here. That's a bizarre thing to suggest. I'm less familiar with the Fuggers so can't comment on them.Linking to junk science is pretty silly, especially if you're trying to justify CHA modifiers, given some of the most charismatic people in history were, by the standards of that junk science, introverts. It's very easy to be gregarious as hell and completely charisma-free (ever met a frat boy? or about a third of the jocks of the world?), or solidly introverted but extremely charismatic (c.f. a whole bunch of actors/artists/cult leaders/politicians).Plus, D&amp;D is not a simulation. It is particularly not a simulation of either junk science like introversion/extraversion (which is barely even real psychology, and psychology itself keeps failing to demonstrate it is actually a science), nor of genetic traits. Insisting things should be a certain way because you believe they are IRL is pretty silly.(The heritability of intelligence in humans is pretty fascinating, because it's so complex that it's easy for two highly intelligent parents to have a moderate or even low IQ child, or vice-versa, if they have sufficiently different genes that contribute to intelligence.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8065005, member: 18"] Medicis? Yes, absolutely some of them knew how to run a farm. You seem to be entirely ignorant of history here. That's a bizarre thing to suggest. I'm less familiar with the Fuggers so can't comment on them. Linking to junk science is pretty silly, especially if you're trying to justify CHA modifiers, given some of the most charismatic people in history were, by the standards of that junk science, introverts. It's very easy to be gregarious as hell and completely charisma-free (ever met a frat boy? or about a third of the jocks of the world?), or solidly introverted but extremely charismatic (c.f. a whole bunch of actors/artists/cult leaders/politicians). Plus, D&D is not a simulation. It is particularly not a simulation of either junk science like introversion/extraversion (which is barely even real psychology, and psychology itself keeps failing to demonstrate it is actually a science), nor of genetic traits. Insisting things should be a certain way because you believe they are IRL is pretty silly. (The heritability of intelligence in humans is pretty fascinating, because it's so complex that it's easy for two highly intelligent parents to have a moderate or even low IQ child, or vice-versa, if they have sufficiently different genes that contribute to intelligence.) [/QUOTE]

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