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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 6165838" data-attributes="member: 7006">In terms of bows... I agree that there needs to be more advantages to using crossbows over regular bows if they are to maintain the same properties except crossbows add Loaded.&nbsp; Either damage for x-bows needs to be higher... regular bows cannot be fired at long range indoors (as Klaus mentioned), or even that regular bows have a minimum range that they cannot fire close than (for longbow especially).&nbsp; So you can't fire a longbow at a target 30 feet or less for example (since it needs the arc to be successful.)But yeah... it can't just be Simple Weapon (crossbows) versus Martial Weapon (bows) for the simple fact that very few classes have proficiency in just Simple weapons, and those that do are the spellcasters that don't tend to use ranged weapon anyway because they have ranged spells.And now that I think about it... they also should take a look at whether you actually need the Simple versus Martial categories anyway... considering most classes that would be just Simple, actually get a specifically written list of weapons they use instead (the druid, the monk).&nbsp; Either give those classes the Simple proficiency category... or else remove the Simple and Martial distinctions altogether and just do individual weapon lists for those classes who don't get every weapon.&nbsp; If barely any classes are getting just Simple weapons (in its entirety) then there's no point in having the category.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 6165838, member: 7006"] In terms of bows... I agree that there needs to be more advantages to using crossbows over regular bows if they are to maintain the same properties except crossbows add Loaded. Either damage for x-bows needs to be higher... regular bows cannot be fired at long range indoors (as Klaus mentioned), or even that regular bows have a minimum range that they cannot fire close than (for longbow especially). So you can't fire a longbow at a target 30 feet or less for example (since it needs the arc to be successful.) But yeah... it can't just be Simple Weapon (crossbows) versus Martial Weapon (bows) for the simple fact that very few classes have proficiency in [I]just[/I] Simple weapons, and those that do are the spellcasters that don't tend to use ranged weapon anyway because they have ranged spells. And now that I think about it... they also should take a look at whether you actually need the Simple versus Martial categories anyway... considering most classes that would be just Simple, actually get a specifically written list of weapons they use instead (the druid, the monk). Either give those classes the Simple proficiency category... or else remove the Simple and Martial distinctions altogether and just do individual weapon lists for those classes who don't get every weapon. If barely any classes are getting just Simple weapons (in its entirety) then there's no point in having the category. [/QUOTE]

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