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<blockquote data-quote="TrippyHippy" data-source="post: 7959970" data-attributes="member: 27252">Based on what data?Firstly, there still are some third parties that actually use the TAS program. Whether its been business suicide for them I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem likely. It just seems that the TAS works for them, while Mongoose themselves don’t seem flustered either way. Matt Sprange suggested they would look again at the TAS license when people complained about it, but nothing has happened since. Either he couldn’t, due to contractual arrangements, or it wasn’t a priority because it clearly hasn’t affected sales. Secondly, there isn’t a reliable count on 'number of players’, as far as I am aware, beyond activity on the internet. This is a wholly unreliable measure. Most Mongoose Traveller fans I know from personal gaming, for example, don’t actually use internet forums at all, while I personally don’t post on 'Citizens of the Imperium’, even though I still am a paying member (must look into that), because I find the site hostile to Mongoose in general.In terms of unit sales via retail, the entire Cepheus group represents a fraction of the sales made by Mongoose Traveller, and this mostly comprises of drivethru PDF sales. Mongoose Traveller maintains retail presence, are an officially licensed with Fantasy Grounds too, and also has had a series of very successful Kickstarter campaigns for specific supplements (particularly box sets). Classic Traveller remains available through various means, including some drivethru books also, but has no retail presence beyond eBay these days.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TrippyHippy, post: 7959970, member: 27252"] Based on what data? Firstly, there still are some third parties that actually use the TAS program. Whether its been business suicide for them I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem likely. It just seems that the TAS works for them, while Mongoose themselves don’t seem flustered either way. Matt Sprange suggested they would look again at the TAS license when people complained about it, but nothing has happened since. Either he couldn’t, due to contractual arrangements, or it wasn’t a priority because it clearly hasn’t affected sales. Secondly, there isn’t a reliable count on 'number of players’, as far as I am aware, beyond activity on the internet. This is a wholly unreliable measure. Most Mongoose Traveller fans I know from personal gaming, for example, don’t actually use internet forums at all, while I personally don’t post on 'Citizens of the Imperium’, even though I still am a paying member (must look into that), because I find the site hostile to Mongoose in general. In terms of unit sales via retail, the entire Cepheus group represents a fraction of the sales made by Mongoose Traveller, and this mostly comprises of drivethru PDF sales. Mongoose Traveller maintains retail presence, are an officially licensed with Fantasy Grounds too, and also has had a series of very successful Kickstarter campaigns for specific supplements (particularly box sets). Classic Traveller remains available through various means, including some drivethru books also, but has no retail presence beyond eBay these days. [/QUOTE]

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