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<blockquote data-quote="elecgraystone" data-source="post: 6165099" data-attributes="member: 74232"><p>Non-lethal: Cool, I missed that. But I guess for low level, most of the time lethal vs non-lethal isn't a big deal.</p><p></p><p>Editing: Again cool.</p><p></p><p>Cart: Wagons just give a weight they can carry so I assumed a cart would do the same. I don't think a wheeled vehicles fall under the normal push/drag. In Ultimate Equipment, they just list number of creatures pulling it and the weight it can carry with nothing said about creatures STR. Maybe I'm missing something. And as I said above, I never expected to ever need to have unbuffed rose moving the cart. Though I'd count wheels as favorable conditions (x2 weight) so even rose would be able to drag it 5' on a road.</p><p></p><p>I planned: At the point My eidolon was 'dead', I'd be pretty much dead (hp -> temp hp and all spell gone). If beaten that bad 6 summon monsters seems like a good stop gap. And to be honest, I'd think my time would be better served using aid other on my summoned crreature or other party members (ac10) than trying to uselessly flail about with a melee weapon. I think the party would be happier with giving the party melee fighter +2 AC than my doing 1 non-leathal damage with my spear. I'm going to have to disagree with you that I need a good weapon to help the party when my chance to hit with it is so low and the damage would also be quite low. Making sure the barbarians greatsword hits sounds viable to me.</p><p></p><p>Shield: With the option to spend 900 gp at first, any fighter can have as good an AC (stone lamelar + tower shield = ac22 for 530gp). Heck, I didn't exploit it much at all by buying a uni-tool and a clothes changer instead of the best armor I could. As for as the inferior results, they really weren't for me. When I got some swag, I could have sold back that shield for the full price and I can't do that with used scrolls. I went for the best result with a full refund. I took superior long term for inferior short term if you want to look at it like that. For me, I only saw the possibility that it might not be liked because it was a corner case. (it's something that wouldn't have been an issue in my old group). It's why I added it to tactics to make sure it'd be OK instead of it being an issue buring play. I didn't expect 2 and 3, but I understand 3.</p><p></p><p>Stats: [scratching head] this confuses me a bit. It's ok to spend 17 points to get a 20 cha but it isn't to get a 16?... 16 gets me all levels of spells and bonus spells for the first 3 levels of spells. It means that I've already got the first 10 levels of casting taken care of and can focus on combat instead. Instead of that +2 cha item, I'd rather pick up a physical stat item to help in combat or a defensive item. As a hybird type caster a 16 casting stat seems fine to me. I'm not getting why playing against type is an issue... On one hand your annoyed I'm a bit optimized (AC) and on the other your annoyed I'm not optimized (spending 17 points on a 16). So do which do you want...</p><p></p><p>Optimal: [scratches head again] I'm afraid I don't see the 'dodgeball' part. Lets compare emily and rose. +3 bonus dex, +1 bonus con, -2 int, -3 wis, +2cha. So stat wise emily has +1 stat bonuses. +1hp(human), +2ac (humanoid), -3ac merged, +1save(human), -4save(merged), -1 or 2 attacks(merged), +1 spell. So I'm better in merged form and worse in human form. So do dodgeball rule apply more to merged form or human form?</p><p></p><p>Rose: Thanks! She's removed from needs approval category.</p><p></p><p>Emily: Daze could work for a few levels but plan to relearn it for some other cantrip as you level up. Once you're only meeting 5+ hd monsters, it's of no use. Also as I said above for me, don't be afraid to pull out a longspear and aid other. It's only an AC 10 so even with a 7 str, you've got a good chance to so it, and who doesn't need a +2 hit or AC?</p><p></p><p>Also gratz on the approval. Hopefully I'll get a character around before you go off and catch an adventure.</p><p></p><p>Satin Knights, do you want to move this (if there is anything else) to private messages so we don't take up anymore room here?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="elecgraystone, post: 6165099, member: 74232"] Non-lethal: Cool, I missed that. But I guess for low level, most of the time lethal vs non-lethal isn't a big deal. Editing: Again cool. Cart: Wagons just give a weight they can carry so I assumed a cart would do the same. I don't think a wheeled vehicles fall under the normal push/drag. In Ultimate Equipment, they just list number of creatures pulling it and the weight it can carry with nothing said about creatures STR. Maybe I'm missing something. And as I said above, I never expected to ever need to have unbuffed rose moving the cart. Though I'd count wheels as favorable conditions (x2 weight) so even rose would be able to drag it 5' on a road. I planned: At the point My eidolon was 'dead', I'd be pretty much dead (hp -> temp hp and all spell gone). If beaten that bad 6 summon monsters seems like a good stop gap. And to be honest, I'd think my time would be better served using aid other on my summoned crreature or other party members (ac10) than trying to uselessly flail about with a melee weapon. I think the party would be happier with giving the party melee fighter +2 AC than my doing 1 non-leathal damage with my spear. I'm going to have to disagree with you that I need a good weapon to help the party when my chance to hit with it is so low and the damage would also be quite low. Making sure the barbarians greatsword hits sounds viable to me. Shield: With the option to spend 900 gp at first, any fighter can have as good an AC (stone lamelar + tower shield = ac22 for 530gp). Heck, I didn't exploit it much at all by buying a uni-tool and a clothes changer instead of the best armor I could. As for as the inferior results, they really weren't for me. When I got some swag, I could have sold back that shield for the full price and I can't do that with used scrolls. I went for the best result with a full refund. I took superior long term for inferior short term if you want to look at it like that. For me, I only saw the possibility that it might not be liked because it was a corner case. (it's something that wouldn't have been an issue in my old group). It's why I added it to tactics to make sure it'd be OK instead of it being an issue buring play. I didn't expect 2 and 3, but I understand 3. Stats: [scratching head] this confuses me a bit. It's ok to spend 17 points to get a 20 cha but it isn't to get a 16?... 16 gets me all levels of spells and bonus spells for the first 3 levels of spells. It means that I've already got the first 10 levels of casting taken care of and can focus on combat instead. Instead of that +2 cha item, I'd rather pick up a physical stat item to help in combat or a defensive item. As a hybird type caster a 16 casting stat seems fine to me. I'm not getting why playing against type is an issue... On one hand your annoyed I'm a bit optimized (AC) and on the other your annoyed I'm not optimized (spending 17 points on a 16). So do which do you want... Optimal: [scratches head again] I'm afraid I don't see the 'dodgeball' part. Lets compare emily and rose. +3 bonus dex, +1 bonus con, -2 int, -3 wis, +2cha. So stat wise emily has +1 stat bonuses. +1hp(human), +2ac (humanoid), -3ac merged, +1save(human), -4save(merged), -1 or 2 attacks(merged), +1 spell. So I'm better in merged form and worse in human form. So do dodgeball rule apply more to merged form or human form? Rose: Thanks! She's removed from needs approval category. Emily: Daze could work for a few levels but plan to relearn it for some other cantrip as you level up. Once you're only meeting 5+ hd monsters, it's of no use. Also as I said above for me, don't be afraid to pull out a longspear and aid other. It's only an AC 10 so even with a 7 str, you've got a good chance to so it, and who doesn't need a +2 hit or AC? Also gratz on the approval. Hopefully I'll get a character around before you go off and catch an adventure. Satin Knights, do you want to move this (if there is anything else) to private messages so we don't take up anymore room here? [/QUOTE]
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