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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zhure" data-source="post: 169161" data-attributes="member: 308">Let me "think out loud" here before I say yes or no.The Aristocrat gives a d8 (which we could drop to a d6 to keep it in the campaign guidelines). Any alignment (ok). Lots of class skills, Knowledge (all) is really nice, a Read Lips is exclusive. Wildnerness Lore is kind of restricted to Druid/Ranger/Barbarian, but really I don't see anything game-breaking about the skills. They are also a 4x skill class, which is second-best of the base classes.The Aristocrat is proficient in the use of all simple and martial weapons and with all types of armor and shields.... that's pretty hefty. Of the other d6/d4 non-PrCs, I can't think of one that grants anything over medium and only a few grant shield. It also has good Will saves. One level is +2.The downside is a +0 BAB and always being one level behind everyone else as a caster/manifester unless they also multiclass.My final answer is: sure, if you drop it to a d6 instead of a d8. UNLESS anyone else objects anonymously, in which case I'll retract my qualified yes.If you merely want to have an aristocratic background, that's fine as any class.I hope that's fair,Greg</blockquote>