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<blockquote data-quote="Iku Rex" data-source="post: 2928231" data-attributes="member: 752"><p>Charm person is an attack. That's not up for debate with regards to the RAW. <em>"All spells that opponents resist with saving throws, that deal damage, or that otherwise harm or hamper subjects are attacks."</em>-- SRD</p><p></p><p>As calyposo15 points out, the <em>intent</em> is obviously not that <em>all</em> targets of charm spells get the bonus. My conclusion is that the target gets the bonus if it's aware of the attack or is threatened by the caster. To me that's as close to the RAW as you get and it makes sense conceptually. (Want someone to be your friend? Don't freak him out with aggressive or threatening behavior. ) </p><p></p><p>Agreed, actually. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Side question (for anyone): Do you call for initiative rolls when a PC or NPC starts casting a spell at someone? And if you don't "count" a charm spell as an attack for the purpose of the bonus, is a suspicious PC or NPC still not "under attack" as it dives for cover in fear for its life after winning initiative?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iku Rex, post: 2928231, member: 752"] Charm person is an attack. That's not up for debate with regards to the RAW. [I]"All spells that opponents resist with saving throws, that deal damage, or that otherwise harm or hamper subjects are attacks."[/I]-- SRD As calyposo15 points out, the [I]intent[/I] is obviously not that [I]all[/I] targets of charm spells get the bonus. My conclusion is that the target gets the bonus if it's aware of the attack or is threatened by the caster. To me that's as close to the RAW as you get and it makes sense conceptually. (Want someone to be your friend? Don't freak him out with aggressive or threatening behavior. ) Agreed, actually. :) Side question (for anyone): Do you call for initiative rolls when a PC or NPC starts casting a spell at someone? And if you don't "count" a charm spell as an attack for the purpose of the bonus, is a suspicious PC or NPC still not "under attack" as it dives for cover in fear for its life after winning initiative? [/QUOTE]
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