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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9002146" data-attributes="member: 18">This is largely true, and accurate about how it functions (basically weapons-grade predictive text) but there are people who operate on an uh, lower, level with these AIs, and there is, essentially, no meaningful "creative work" going on with them.This is particularly obvious with art AIs, because it changed from the initial period where most usage was quite creative and rapidly became the default mode of use - there was no creativity, merely attempts to make the machine make things people didn't want to pay an artist for - often just to either directly steal an artist's style or to create crude, obvious, jerk-off/fetish material. Obviously that's a lot easier to monetize than the small minority of people who want to use it creatively (it does have legit uses, but they're no longer the focus of the paid AI art companies).But it's also true to a lesser degree with LLM AIs like these - many people are using them creatively - as jumping off points, or to just grab ideas together or the like, but others, I'm afraid, aren't doing that, they're just giving it incredibly basic prompts and then continuing to prompt it in a really simple way. I don't say this to criticise them (I do criticise the art people who use it to steal styles, make fakes or the like, though), but I think it's a point worth raising. You can use LLMs very creatively, or you can barely be a participant.One thing I will say is that there's a degree of GIGO, and you have to carefully craft prompts if you don't want something that's just really annoying dumb, trope-y and super-obvious, with fantasy, and even then likely you have to just strip out the few good ideas from the utter junk. But some people are perfectly happy with dumb, trope-y, meaningless and obvious. A friend of a friend used it to basically write an entire SF novella. It's absolutely dire. It has no themes, no ideas, no meaning, no real characterisation, no relationship to the human experience, just a giant teetering pile of incredibly obvious SF tropes. The FoaF in question is extremely pleased with it, but like goddamn.</blockquote>

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