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<blockquote data-quote="silentdante" data-source="post: 8189581" data-attributes="member: 6881233">pathfinder: kingmaker was a dumpster fire when it launchedthey fixed the game in about 6 months and it is one of the best ever made. i think the characters are interesting, a lot of them from the pathfinder universe/novels, and the story is great. the kingdom building part is good, not great, but i played for the RPG crunch-ness and you cant beat it in any other modern TTRPG-like video game. the sheer number of options for the PC and if you want to build your own party, is massive. the campaign books this is based off of were well liked and they didnt naughty word the story up, it's still good.can they pull it off with the second game? i dunno, but so far there are some interesting new NPC's and even MOAR PC crunch available. there are quite a few quality of life improvements to this over kingmaker. the story starts interestingly enough and i havent gotten to the army leading part of the beta yet. i am also interested to see how choosing the mythic path will effect the game and choices with a few of those to choose from too. i honestly think since all the old D&amp;D games 9baldurs gate/planscape torment etc.) and say arcanum, we havent seen actual crunchy RPG's for the PC/Console unless you go real obscure, and some of those are decent. i think owlcat knock the pathfinder crpg out of the park.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="silentdante, post: 8189581, member: 6881233"] pathfinder: kingmaker was a dumpster fire when it launched they fixed the game in about 6 months and it is one of the best ever made. i think the characters are interesting, a lot of them from the pathfinder universe/novels, and the story is great. the kingdom building part is good, not great, but i played for the RPG crunch-ness and you cant beat it in any other modern TTRPG-like video game. the sheer number of options for the PC and if you want to build your own party, is massive. the campaign books this is based off of were well liked and they didnt naughty word the story up, it's still good. can they pull it off with the second game? i dunno, but so far there are some interesting new NPC's and even MOAR PC crunch available. there are quite a few quality of life improvements to this over kingmaker. the story starts interestingly enough and i havent gotten to the army leading part of the beta yet. i am also interested to see how choosing the mythic path will effect the game and choices with a few of those to choose from too. i honestly think since all the old D&D games 9baldurs gate/planscape torment etc.) and say arcanum, we havent seen actual crunchy RPG's for the PC/Console unless you go real obscure, and some of those are decent. i think owlcat knock the pathfinder crpg out of the park. [/QUOTE]

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