D&D General Chef feat should be an origin feat

[Zardnaar]

This is silly.

You think anyone that cares about optimizing is taking the crafting feat when they can take Lucky?

Most players don’t even optimize, and the ones that do, still do with the current origin feats.

Crafting feats really good with 5.5 crafting rules.

I dont think its quite sunk in yet that RAW you can once again craft the exact items your build requires.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Crafting feats really good with 5.5 crafting rules.

I dont think its quite sunk in yet that RAW you can once again craft the exact items your build requires.

That is vastly weaker than Lucky or Magic Initiate.

 

[Zardnaar]

That is vastly weaker than Lucky or Magic Initiate.

+6 or 9 spell DC or 2d6 per attack?

 

[DrJawaPhD]

I dont think its quite sunk in yet that RAW you can once again craft the exact items your build requires.

That's because RAW you can only craft what items the DM allows the materials to be available for, so you still require DM approval either way

 

[EzekielRaiden]

It should totally be an Origin Feat. To be honest though, I don’t think there should be a distinction between Origin Feats and other Feats. If the only difference is that Origin Feats don’t give +1 to an ability score, just remove the ability score increase from all Feats, and say at ASI levels you get +1 to an ability score and a Feat.

Yeah. If you absolutely have to, you could even go for something like giving feats a score-boost prerequisite. "Some Feats have an associated ability score. For example, Resilient is associated with any single ability score, while Magic Initiate is associated with any one of the three mental ability scores, Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma. For feats with an associated ability score, in order to take that feat at any level after 1st level, you must choose to increase one associated ability score by 1 when taking that feat."

And then Lessons of the First Ones, since it specifies only Origin feats, would specify that you do not increase ability scores as a result of taking that invocation--or that you can only take feats which require 1st level or no level at all, and which you meet all other prerequisites for.

 

[Seramus]

It should totally be an Origin Feat. To be honest though, I don’t think there should be a distinction between Origin Feats and other Feats. If the only difference is that Origin Feats don’t give +1 to an ability score, just remove the ability score increase from all Feats, and say at ASI levels you get +1 to an ability score and a Feat.

100%, just dropping the attribute bonus makes almost every General Feat roughly appropriate as an Origin Feat.

 

[sevenbastard]

I guess to be a real chef you have to live through some battles?

I mean working in a kitchen is probably higher stress than most 5e combat situations. So yeah level 4 makes perfect sense.

 

[Willie the Duck]

Chef being a IRL background (at least to the same level as entertainer or noble is) I can certainly get behind.

Chef the feat (minus the attribute bonus) being something a PC starts with... I don't see a specific reason not to.

100%, just dropping the attribute bonus makes almost every General Feat roughly appropriate as an Origin Feat.

I suspect it likely that a huge number of people would pick up War Caster, Great Weapon Master, Mage Slayer, and Resilient (especially in an attribute you want the save proficiency in, but don't care too much about the +1 in). I think, if those options were on the table, there would be hue and cry and long rants about how you 'can't' take flavorful starting feats because that hamstrings your entire class career not taking War Caster/Great Weapon Master/Mage Slayer/Resilient at level one and then power-maxing your main attribute with every further ASI. I don't know that I would consider those positions to be accurate, but I certainly suspect they would show up with non-trivial frequency.

 

[Lakesidefantasy]

That's because RAW you can only craft what items the DM allows the materials to be available for, so you still require DM approval either way

Any balancing mechanic dependent upon Dungeon Master approval just means it's de facto approved because DMs don't want to deal with grown men whining and pouting at the gaming table.