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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8150083" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>No award you've mentioned is genre inclusive, though. It isn't like fantasy is the only fictional genre largely missing from the awards you've cited.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's a National <em>BOOK</em> Award for Fiction. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>By population size, you'd expect about 70% of English Language Fantasy to be written by Americans, I think. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>With respect, the goalposts are moving. You started with "well written" - the awards were an indication that work was well written. Clearly, though, the awards aren't <em>only</em> for being well-written. </p><p></p><p>Let me try another approach here - I submit to you that, statistically speaking, these awards <em>CANNOT</em> be unbiased (in pretty much any way - genre, ethnicity of writer, or whatever). The number of awards given is too small! There's on the order of a million books published in the US each year. Each award selects roughly one. </p><p></p><p>Even if the awards held no intrinsic genre bias, a random choice of a handful out of millions should not be expected to be representative of the nature of the works. To sample large populations, even when you are taking an active effort to eliminate bias, you need a sample of hundreds to thousands, not singles. And, I don't think there's a solid argument that these awards are trying to eliminate biases.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8150083, member: 177"] No award you've mentioned is genre inclusive, though. It isn't like fantasy is the only fictional genre largely missing from the awards you've cited. There's a National [I]BOOK[/I] Award for Fiction. By population size, you'd expect about 70% of English Language Fantasy to be written by Americans, I think. With respect, the goalposts are moving. You started with "well written" - the awards were an indication that work was well written. Clearly, though, the awards aren't [I]only[/I] for being well-written. Let me try another approach here - I submit to you that, statistically speaking, these awards [I]CANNOT[/I] be unbiased (in pretty much any way - genre, ethnicity of writer, or whatever). The number of awards given is too small! There's on the order of a million books published in the US each year. Each award selects roughly one. Even if the awards held no intrinsic genre bias, a random choice of a handful out of millions should not be expected to be representative of the nature of the works. To sample large populations, even when you are taking an active effort to eliminate bias, you need a sample of hundreds to thousands, not singles. And, I don't think there's a solid argument that these awards are trying to eliminate biases. [/QUOTE]
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