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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5073430" data-attributes="member: 71571">One.Stealth does not give you invisibility, nor vice versa.two.The stealth check allows you to -enter- the hidden status, but it does not allow you to -maintain- hidden status.Three.This is also realistic.&nbsp; Allies and enemies don't -actually- stop moving.&nbsp; And you need not only to synchronise your movements to your ally, but also the enemy's vision. Which is something you can't exactly practice so easily.This would therefore be the purview of a power, not of the base skill.&nbsp;The difference between a stone wall and a combatant (other than the size of each object) is that the combatant is constantly moving.&nbsp; The combat system is not based on the concept of people standing there dully while enemies hit them with sticks.&nbsp; The only kind of combatant that doesn't maneuver is one that is dead.Here's the problem with this:&nbsp; Hidden status doesn't last until the end of your turn.&nbsp; It is not turn based at all.&nbsp; So, you don't wait till your next turn to figure stuff out.&nbsp; You, at every point of every action, determine if you've still got sufficient legal cover to continue Stealth.&nbsp; The same rule applies at your next turn as does apply during THIS turn. Which, by the way, does not end with the stealth check anyways. So, you make the stealth check, and then immediately fail the necessary requirements for steath -immediately-.&nbsp; This means you'd become unhidden at the end of that specific action.&nbsp; Not your next turn.Regardless, your argument somehow suggests that you're able to remain hidden until your next turn.&nbsp; But the rule says you cannot, under those circumstances, remain hidden at all.&nbsp; For any length of time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5073430, member: 71571"] One. Stealth does not give you invisibility, nor vice versa. two. The stealth check allows you to -enter- the hidden status, but it does not allow you to -maintain- hidden status. Three. This is also realistic. Allies and enemies don't -actually- stop moving. And you need not only to synchronise your movements to your ally, but also the enemy's vision. Which is something you can't exactly practice so easily. This would therefore be the purview of a power, not of the base skill. The difference between a stone wall and a combatant (other than the size of each object) is that the combatant is constantly moving. The combat system is not based on the concept of people standing there dully while enemies hit them with sticks. The only kind of combatant that doesn't maneuver is one that is dead. Here's the problem with this: Hidden status doesn't last until the end of your turn. It is not turn based at all. So, you don't wait till your next turn to figure stuff out. You, at every point of every action, determine if you've still got sufficient legal cover to continue Stealth. The same rule applies at your next turn as does apply during THIS turn. Which, by the way, does not end with the stealth check anyways. So, you make the stealth check, and then immediately fail the necessary requirements for steath -immediately-. This means you'd become unhidden at the end of that specific action. Not your next turn. Regardless, your argument somehow suggests that you're able to remain hidden until your next turn. But the rule says you cannot, under those circumstances, remain hidden at all. For any length of time. [/QUOTE]

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