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<blockquote data-quote="CajunAzn" data-source="post: 5074276" data-attributes="member: 87718"><p>In my last post, I had so many arguments to respond that I didn't get I chance to answer Abdul's question about exactly when do you start applying the "no creatures as cover to remain hidden" rule.</p><p> </p><p>The answer is quite simply you start applying "no creatures as cover rule" exactly when the conditions that granted you cover for the stealth check no longer exist.</p><p> </p><p>What were the "conditions that granted to you cover". It was an ally, that blocked 3+ lines of sight of the enemy.</p><p> </p><p>Therefore, the ally that granted you cover must, at all times, remain blocking 3+ of the enemy's lines of sight or you lose the stealth you rolled for. (This makes sense, because your roll the stealth check to see if you are dextrous enough to sychronize and position body behind your ally, so that enemy couldn't get a clear look at you from that <em>particular</em> angle).</p><p> </p><p>If that ally shifts so that he's no longer providing superior cover or the enemy shifts, "the conditions that provided you stealth" cease and you automatically lose the stealth. In practice, this means all it takes is for the enemy to shift just 1 square to the side for you to become visible. Furthurmore, your ally is restricted to moving along the lines of sight (ie. staying in front of you) his whole turn. </p><p> </p><p>This is why it takes exceptional tactics and teamwork to set up the situation for your hidden status to last until your next turn. But overall, it's a completely self-consistent, well-defined, and realistic interpretation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CajunAzn, post: 5074276, member: 87718"] In my last post, I had so many arguments to respond that I didn't get I chance to answer Abdul's question about exactly when do you start applying the "no creatures as cover to remain hidden" rule. The answer is quite simply you start applying "no creatures as cover rule" exactly when the conditions that granted you cover for the stealth check no longer exist. What were the "conditions that granted to you cover". It was an ally, that blocked 3+ lines of sight of the enemy. Therefore, the ally that granted you cover must, at all times, remain blocking 3+ of the enemy's lines of sight or you lose the stealth you rolled for. (This makes sense, because your roll the stealth check to see if you are dextrous enough to sychronize and position body behind your ally, so that enemy couldn't get a clear look at you from that [I]particular[/I] angle). If that ally shifts so that he's no longer providing superior cover or the enemy shifts, "the conditions that provided you stealth" cease and you automatically lose the stealth. In practice, this means all it takes is for the enemy to shift just 1 square to the side for you to become visible. Furthurmore, your ally is restricted to moving along the lines of sight (ie. staying in front of you) his whole turn. This is why it takes exceptional tactics and teamwork to set up the situation for your hidden status to last until your next turn. But overall, it's a completely self-consistent, well-defined, and realistic interpretation. [/QUOTE]
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