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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 5074982" data-attributes="member: 59057">actually i could see a ranged rogue using creatures as cover to become hidden for long enough to get out a sneak attack shot...you hide at the end of the move action, your next action is the standard attack... it is not that you can really hide for a long time, but you can maybe use your ally to get a sneak attack in... Maybe this was the intend...spend a move action + roll a hide check vs passive perception doesn,´t sound too broken when you compare it to hunters quarry...So as far as i am concerned as long as the rogue doesn´t do more damage than a ranger or barbarian, i would say its ok.the real question is:what is faster: you taking the action to shoot or not remaining hidden... at the moment I would say: simultaneous and then the clause: you receive the effects of beeing hidden until the action is resolved...actually i am right now more concerned about rangers having combat advantage all the time on twin strike... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> but then again: they only have a +2 proficency bonus...about remaining hidden: coordnated actions to keep a character out of sight for more than a split second is impossible...Bluff vs insight is however a bit underpowered compared to stealth then... but you don´t need a partner then...</blockquote>

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