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<blockquote data-quote="fuzzlewump" data-source="post: 5075991" data-attributes="member: 63214">Uh, no. Maybe that one part of my post can be spun to say that. I'm saying I think it's illegal, but the next guy will think it's legal. Because there really is an inconsistency in the rules. It's simultaneously legal and illegal because... well, please read my previous post. A ranged attack can have cover and superior cover based on two different sections of the cover section.@Oldtimer: the picture on page 280 shows lines drawn from someone's square to corners of other creatures squares. Notice, how if you draw lines from that corner to every corner of the troll in the back's square, that he &quot;should&quot; have superior cover. Because 3 of them are blocked. But, he only has cover. This is because of the &quot;Creatures and Cover&quot; section. No matter how many lines are blocked, creatures can only provide &quot;Cover&quot; not &quot;Superior Cover.&quot; The only place it is implied otherwise is in &quot;Determining Cover,&quot; but the stealth errata makes it clear to me that allies cannot function as superior cover, because you can't remain hidden behind allies. If standing diagonally behind an ally (in a roomy five-foot space mind you) was just as good as cover as an arrow slit, I think they would say stealthing behind them was just fine.However, even without the stealth errata though, it seems clear that they meant creatures only to provide normal cover. Stealth errata just really seals the RAI, for me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fuzzlewump, post: 5075991, member: 63214"] Uh, no. Maybe that one part of my post can be spun to say that. I'm saying I think it's illegal, but the next guy will think it's legal. Because there really is an inconsistency in the rules. It's simultaneously legal and illegal because... well, please read my previous post. A ranged attack can have cover and superior cover based on two different sections of the cover section. @Oldtimer: the picture on page 280 shows lines drawn from someone's square to corners of other creatures squares. Notice, how if you draw lines from that corner to every corner of the troll in the back's square, that he "should" have [I]superior[/I] cover. Because 3 of them are blocked. But, he only has cover. This is because of the "Creatures and Cover" section. No matter how many lines are blocked, creatures can only provide [I]"Cover" [/I]not "Superior Cover." The only place it is implied otherwise is in "Determining Cover," but the stealth errata makes it clear to me that allies cannot function as superior cover, because you can't remain hidden behind allies. If standing diagonally behind an ally (in a roomy five-foot space mind you) was just as good as cover as an arrow slit, I think they would say stealthing behind them was just fine. However, even without the stealth errata though, it seems clear that they meant creatures only to provide normal cover. Stealth errata just really seals the RAI, for me. [/QUOTE]

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