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<blockquote data-quote="fuzzlewump" data-source="post: 5077977" data-attributes="member: 63214">It certainly checks out rules wise, but the weird issues with getting superior cover really hinder it for me. It seems clear to me that just being a certain angle shouldn't give you superior cover. That may take a good bit of house ruling, but I'm thinking based on the examples for superior cover they give in the book, that positioning alone shouldn't be able to do it. I'd say, if there are two allies in the way of your drawing of imaginary lines, plus you have concealment, then stealth is cool. Come to think of it, it should apply to obstacles as well. The exact positioning of the lines doesn't matter all that much as long as those lines, as a whole, touch 2 allies at some point. I could definitely see a case for realism if two people are between you and someone else and it's dark. Maybe 3, but don't want to become too restrictive.So, a single creature or a non-solid object can only ever provide &quot;cover,&quot; but 2-3 of them, if touched (as in, the line goes through or along their squares) by the imaginary lines, provide superior cover. And, of course, things like windows and arrow slits provide superior cover as normal. Just a random house rule; for the most part our group just eye balls it and adjudicates. That's why the diagonal case seems so wrong to me, because it would never pass the &quot;eye-ball it&quot; test.But hey, it's RAW, and more importantly, whatever floats your boat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fuzzlewump, post: 5077977, member: 63214"] It certainly checks out rules wise, but the weird issues with getting superior cover really hinder it for me. It seems clear to me that just being a certain angle shouldn't give you superior cover. That may take a good bit of house ruling, but I'm thinking based on the examples for superior cover they give in the book, that positioning alone shouldn't be able to do it. I'd say, if there are two allies in the way of your drawing of imaginary lines, plus you have concealment, then stealth is cool. Come to think of it, it should apply to obstacles as well. The exact positioning of the lines doesn't matter all that much as long as those lines, as a whole, touch 2 allies at some point. I could definitely see a case for realism if two people are between you and someone else and it's dark. Maybe 3, but don't want to become too restrictive. So, a single creature or a non-solid object can only ever provide "cover," but 2-3 of them, if touched (as in, the line goes through or along their squares) by the imaginary lines, provide superior cover. And, of course, things like windows and arrow slits provide superior cover as normal. Just a random house rule; for the most part our group just eye balls it and adjudicates. That's why the diagonal case seems so wrong to me, because it would never pass the "eye-ball it" test. But hey, it's RAW, and more importantly, whatever floats your boat. [/QUOTE]

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