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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5081182" data-attributes="member: 2011">Let's take an example straight from the rules:Just like in the Creatures and Cover section, the Area Attacks and Close Attacks section does not say which of the two definitions of cover is being used, cover as in &quot;the rules on cover&quot; or cover as in normal cover &quot;-2 penalty to attack rolls&quot;.When it comes to determining normal cover vs. superior cover, the Area Attacks and Close Attacks determines if cover is possible at all and the Determining Cover section determines whether it is normal cover, or superior cover.Ditto for all of the other sections. The text that determines if if is normal cover or superior cover is solely the provence of the Determining Cover rules.For the opposing POV to be valid, Area Attacks and Close Attacks could never have superior cover if Creatures and Cover never have superior cover.With respect to type of cover (normal or superior), there is no difference between:andNeither of these two rules indicate anything about normal cover vs. superior cover. They indicate if cover exists. Period.Note: I ignored the rest of your post because I am not talking about hidden, range cover, or anything else. I am merely talking about normal cover vs. superior cover. Bringing in the rest of the discussion says nothing about this point.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5081182, member: 2011"] Let's take an example straight from the rules: Just like in the Creatures and Cover section, the Area Attacks and Close Attacks section does not say which of the two definitions of cover is being used, cover as in "the rules on cover" or cover as in normal cover "-2 penalty to attack rolls". When it comes to determining normal cover vs. superior cover, the Area Attacks and Close Attacks determines if cover is possible at all and the Determining Cover section determines whether it is normal cover, or superior cover. Ditto for all of the other sections. The text that determines if if is normal cover or superior cover is solely the provence of the Determining Cover rules. For the opposing POV to be valid, Area Attacks and Close Attacks could never have superior cover if Creatures and Cover never have superior cover. With respect to type of cover (normal or superior), there is no difference between: and Neither of these two rules indicate anything about normal cover vs. superior cover. They indicate if cover exists. Period. Note: I ignored the rest of your post because I am not talking about hidden, range cover, or anything else. I am merely talking about normal cover vs. superior cover. Bringing in the rest of the discussion says nothing about this point. [/QUOTE]

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