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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FabioMilitoPagliara" data-source="post: 5356977" data-attributes="member: 10313">I don't think soin 3.5 they said this is the new ranger, the old is not more usablein Essential they say this is a new sub-class/build of the ranger, the old one can go hand in hand with this new onewell they tied in the game shop with interview we don't have real dataand pathfinder is actually 3.5 so has a pretty solid base by itselfsorry for them they are missing a lot of new optionsadding new classes don't change the game, never have, never willor it's telling that they have a different way to present the game, a way that is made of box and other things that can be sold primarly in shops instead that just  by dowloading an updateand the real point is to have this 10 products always in the shop so that if you want to start playing D&D in october 2011 you will just get the redbox and try it out 20$, instead of buying 3 big books, dices, an adventure and a lot of other thingsfor various reason1) ESSENTIAL and CORE are both 4th edition so they are just selling in two differen formats2) there are many reason to not support all editions at once (copyright just to say one)3) I think they wantend also to separate OGL from D&Doh yeah they must be really stupid....or maybe who still play 1st edition has all the books he needs....or maybe you must just have a different point of view than yoursthey could not have done the pathfinder route1) as said to separate D&D from OGL2) to call for massive beta testing would have cut at least 1 year off 3.53) it would have aimed to people already buying 3.5 who was dwindling steadly...maybe I am not sensible, but to compare D&D and Pathfinder you should just pile up the number of manuals of both the total sale figure of the 2 brands and the number of subscribers to D&D Insideryour problemmaybe TSR before 1985.... but after that it was a big mess <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></blockquote>

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