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<blockquote data-quote="Mind of tempest" data-source="post: 8232630" data-attributes="member: 7029233">healer/support class yeah but not one who is useless in other areas.I just generally dislike the draw from the universe with faith thing I just do not get it nor am I able to convincingly replicate faith for rp of any kind beyond trust in people.I thank you for your examples I just do not see how they would not just be the same thing as a wizard?I have heard of them but they suck in both non-healing and are thematically light wights.but they more likely thought the sun could be bargained with thus it was the lowest variant of a deity, but how does faith grant power I do not get it?warlocks are honestly more similar thematically to clerics than people would think, I just hate sorcerers it is complex but I hate them, the monk is nice but not a full caster.the eberron idea you gave is nice but I hate it for the reason I hate Divine Soul Sorcerors.darksun would not have artificers and it has the wrong thematics also some people just do not want them in their setting.I honestly just do not get bards how do they even work? where does the concept come from?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mind of tempest, post: 8232630, member: 7029233"] healer/support class yeah but not one who is useless in other areas. I just generally dislike the draw from the universe with faith thing I just do not get it nor am I able to convincingly replicate faith for rp of any kind beyond trust in people. I thank you for your examples I just do not see how they would not just be the same thing as a wizard? I have heard of them but they suck in both non-healing and are thematically light wights. but they more likely thought the sun could be bargained with thus it was the lowest variant of a deity, but how does faith grant power I do not get it? warlocks are honestly more similar thematically to clerics than people would think, I just hate sorcerers it is complex but I hate them, the monk is nice but not a full caster. the eberron idea you gave is nice but I hate it for the reason I hate Divine Soul Sorcerors. darksun would not have artificers and it has the wrong thematics also some people just do not want them in their setting. I honestly just do not get bards how do they even work? where does the concept come from? [/QUOTE]

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