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<blockquote data-quote="Mind of tempest" data-source="post: 8236450" data-attributes="member: 7029233">how is light or nature a better concept than a sandwich? they are all equally mindless, we are not in disagreement on deities.it is a very useful preference for any sitting in which is going to be used to solve problems to stop magic solves anything, also makes spell and class design easier as things are far more structured, does not need to be flesh out all at the beginning.interesting, seems very random for them to have it but interesting.but how does an oath do that? faith is unreplicable for me but I need at least a hand wave for it to work, plus a paladin is primarily a frontline fighter with healing closer to a bonus, I was asking more for primarily support but with some ability to go on the offensive which is the slight difference between clerics and paladins.I would accept it in eberron as that was part of its setting goals, it just seems like it breaks the fantasy of the divine casters in all other settings as it applies for the reason that gods are real and will back you up.the later point goes over my head.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mind of tempest, post: 8236450, member: 7029233"] how is light or nature a better concept than a sandwich? they are all equally mindless, we are not in disagreement on deities. it is a very useful preference for any sitting in which is going to be used to solve problems to stop magic solves anything, also makes spell and class design easier as things are far more structured, does not need to be flesh out all at the beginning. interesting, seems very random for them to have it but interesting. but how does an oath do that? faith is unreplicable for me but I need at least a hand wave for it to work, plus a paladin is primarily a frontline fighter with healing closer to a bonus, I was asking more for primarily support but with some ability to go on the offensive which is the slight difference between clerics and paladins. I would accept it in eberron as that was part of its setting goals, it just seems like it breaks the fantasy of the divine casters in all other settings as it applies for the reason that gods are real and will back you up. the later point goes over my head. [/QUOTE]

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