Class- Role- Power Source

[breschau]

Also, in all seriousness, a Martial Controller could be a Grenadier, someone who makes grenades, bombs, explosive potions and other battle field changing devices and uses them. Could be very cool character class.

Or the Trap-Maker.

 

[Remathilis]

Arcane Power Source
Defender- Duskblade
Controller- Wizard
Leader- Bard
Striker- Warlock

Divine Power Source
Defender- Paladin
Controller- Druid
Leader- Cleric
Striker- Ranger

Martial Power Source
Defender- Fighter
Controller- Hexblade (remove the casting ability, add more hexy-powers)
Leader- Warlord
Striker- Rogue

Psionic Power Source
Defender - Psychic Warrior
Controller - Psion
Leader - Ardent/Divine Mind Hybrid (as it should have been)
Striker - Soulknife

 

[Merlion]

Could characters have two power sources without multi-classing? For instance the ranger and the paladin I can see both of them having a martial power source and a divine power source.

I would certainly hope they would. Logically, Rangers and Paladins should have "martial" for their, well, martial capabilities, and "divine" for their spells.

Honestly, I hope the "power sources" are not so hard and fast, and I hope they arent really talked about too much. I sincerely hope that both "Power sources" and "roles" are kept firmly in the realm of metagaming shorthand within the books. I dont want to see them used heavily or really at all in the class descreptions. I want to see them primarily or only in the combat and magic chapters, as the metagame terms for how characters do things, and their most common or best suited role in combat.

I want to see Rangers and Paladins as simply having their spells, and having A B and C other abilities, without a lot of "power source" babel outside of a baasic explanation.

 

[Merlion]

As far as what classes when and where...well, I personally dislike the aparent fact that theres only going to be 8 classes in the first PH.

I'm more concerened with what classes they will be, than with how the "roles" and "power sources" are alloted, since I hope those things take a backseat to what the classes actually are.

 

[Zurai]

The Ranger is NOT a Divine Striker. They're martial. Remember, the Ranger beat up the Scout and stole his stuff. Scouts have no divine abilities whatsoever. Expect Ranger "spellcasting" to be a talent tree at best - and then not to be true spellcasting, but rather spell-like per day or per encounter abilities.

 

[Remathilis]

The Ranger is NOT a Divine Striker. They're martial. Remember, the Ranger beat up the Scout and stole his stuff. Scouts have no divine abilities whatsoever. Expect Ranger "spellcasting" to be a talent tree at best - and then not to be true spellcasting, but rather spell-like per day or per encounter abilities.

My theory tends to lean on this a bit myself...

THEORY: There will be no Part-time Casters in 4e.

Either a class with a caster class, or it won't. Paladins will get all sorts of cool divine abilities (lay on hands, smite evil) but not clerical-like spells. Ditto with the ranger. Rangers might have some cool "natural" magics (wild empathy, hide in plain sight) but not a selection of ranger/druid spells...

 

[Merlion]

My theory tends to lean on this a bit myself...

THEORY: There will be no Part-time Casters in 4e.

Either a class with a caster class, or it won't. Paladins will get all sorts of cool divine abilities (lay on hands, smite evil) but not clerical-like spells. Ditto with the ranger. Rangers might have some cool "natural" magics (wild empathy, hide in plain sight) but not a selection of ranger/druid spells...

You may very well be right about that. However, I have an idea that such classes will still "draw off" multiple "power sources"

 

[LightPhoenix]

I mostly agree with Olgar, except put Barbarian as the Controller - we've had comments that strongly suggest Barbarian is a class. Actually, if it wasn't strongly suggested already that the Rogue is a Striker, I would put Rogue as the Controller and Barbarian as the Striker.

Also, considering "Nature" is a divine source (per Druid), if the Ranger has "Nature" abilities, then that's definitely Divine, even if we don't really think of it as such.