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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8055188" data-attributes="member: 6801228">That has literally not been my experience with sorcerers. But I don't want to devolve this into another discussion about them. Because it would just be the same discussion we always have about them.I have a problem with that paradigm. Firstly, if that is true of rangers, it certainly explains a lot, since they only get 4 subclass abilities, compared to 11 or so class abilities. If the majority of their power is supposed to come from those four abilities, I find it completely unsurprising that the ranger typically comes across as under-powered. Especially before they get their sub-class and in the gap levels where they aren;t getting new subclass abilities. As for the "subsystem", well, first of all, there is only one, so you are talking only about spell casting because we don't have another sub-system to work with. But, Druids, Bard, and Clerics also have very nice and impactful abilities. Clerics less so than the other two in general, but it is there. And these abilities (Bardic Inspiration and Wildshape particularly, as well as subclass features like the Dream Druid healing pool or the glamour bards charm abilities) change how the class plays almost as much as their spell choices,.</blockquote>