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<blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8056370" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>I want to play a Hexblade Bladelock without sucking, compared to both other Warlocks and other melee/ranged weapon attackers. A hexblade that doesn't multiclass can get at most 3 attacks in a round with a weapon (using feats as well), compared to a EB spammer's 4 attacks. The highest damage dice you can do for this if you just want to make 3 attacks every round, not dependent on killing other creatures, without being mounted is 1d6 (crossbow expert, hand crossbow). While mounted, it's 1d12 (but there are disadvantages to that as well) with a lance and the dual wielder feat. </p><p></p><p>So, only 3 attacks each round, which takes at least one feat to get and an eldritch invocation (Thirsting Blade), when it takes EB spammers no feats and only one Eldritch Invocation to get Agonizing blast, makes the Hexblade feel sucky. </p><p></p><p>Then, if the Hexblade wants to actually do more/equal damage to an EB spammer, they need to use a spell slot to Hex, just like the EB spammer. They then need to take Sharpshooter, Life Drinker, and Improved Pact Weapon, while also giving up their bonus action every round to make threee attacks while the EB spammer is making 4 in one action. You'll need Haste cast on you by a buddy to match the amount of attacks in a round. (Also, note that the only way to have a hand crossbow as a pact weapon is to get a magic one, with the help of your DM or an Artificer (let's assume it's +2 at this level). </p><p></p><p>Hexblades have to give up a lot to be on par with other Warlocks, and other weapon based characters, and need a lot of help from their DM and fellow players just to not feel like they suck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Levistus's_Leviathan, post: 8056370, member: 7023887"] I want to play a Hexblade Bladelock without sucking, compared to both other Warlocks and other melee/ranged weapon attackers. A hexblade that doesn't multiclass can get at most 3 attacks in a round with a weapon (using feats as well), compared to a EB spammer's 4 attacks. The highest damage dice you can do for this if you just want to make 3 attacks every round, not dependent on killing other creatures, without being mounted is 1d6 (crossbow expert, hand crossbow). While mounted, it's 1d12 (but there are disadvantages to that as well) with a lance and the dual wielder feat. So, only 3 attacks each round, which takes at least one feat to get and an eldritch invocation (Thirsting Blade), when it takes EB spammers no feats and only one Eldritch Invocation to get Agonizing blast, makes the Hexblade feel sucky. Then, if the Hexblade wants to actually do more/equal damage to an EB spammer, they need to use a spell slot to Hex, just like the EB spammer. They then need to take Sharpshooter, Life Drinker, and Improved Pact Weapon, while also giving up their bonus action every round to make threee attacks while the EB spammer is making 4 in one action. You'll need Haste cast on you by a buddy to match the amount of attacks in a round. (Also, note that the only way to have a hand crossbow as a pact weapon is to get a magic one, with the help of your DM or an Artificer (let's assume it's +2 at this level). Hexblades have to give up a lot to be on par with other Warlocks, and other weapon based characters, and need a lot of help from their DM and fellow players just to not feel like they suck. [/QUOTE]
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