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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8059650" data-attributes="member: 6987520"><p>As to your particular scenario, as your DM I would have given you advantage on the check if your background had anything do to with being a chef and you were disguised as one. Also, who disguised you? The DC for the Wisdom (Insight) should have been their ability check when disguising you (or it should have been a factor). Not being there, I can speak precisely as to it all, but it sounds like a roll was asked for that probably wasn't warranted?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Every class you list has the opportunity via CHA and background to select proficiencies that will affect social interactions if they choose to. There was a thread a short while ago precisely about Fighters not being good in social settings, and that is patently incorrect <em>IF</em> you want to contribute that way.</p><p></p><p>I made a half-elf level 1 Fighter with proficiency in <em>all</em> the CHA skills with CHA 16 to prove it.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying it wouldn't be <em>nice </em>if they had <em>something</em> to help with social aspects of the game, but they can be as good as any other PC (sans <em>expertise</em>, of course...) if you want them to be. A fighter with CHA 16 and proficiency in persuasion and intimidation would make an excellent leader for instance. With two additional ASIs, a fighter could also choose more skills and a feat to complement the build if they wanted, such as Actor for instance.</p><p></p><p>At any rate, your point is well taken, but I think a lot has to do with the DM's judgement as to when a check is called for, how you want your PC to contribute to the game, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8059650, member: 6987520"] As to your particular scenario, as your DM I would have given you advantage on the check if your background had anything do to with being a chef and you were disguised as one. Also, who disguised you? The DC for the Wisdom (Insight) should have been their ability check when disguising you (or it should have been a factor). Not being there, I can speak precisely as to it all, but it sounds like a roll was asked for that probably wasn't warranted? Every class you list has the opportunity via CHA and background to select proficiencies that will affect social interactions if they choose to. There was a thread a short while ago precisely about Fighters not being good in social settings, and that is patently incorrect [I]IF[/I] you want to contribute that way. I made a half-elf level 1 Fighter with proficiency in [I]all[/I] the CHA skills with CHA 16 to prove it. I'm not saying it wouldn't be [I]nice [/I]if they had [I]something[/I] to help with social aspects of the game, but they can be as good as any other PC (sans [I]expertise[/I], of course...) if you want them to be. A fighter with CHA 16 and proficiency in persuasion and intimidation would make an excellent leader for instance. With two additional ASIs, a fighter could also choose more skills and a feat to complement the build if they wanted, such as Actor for instance. At any rate, your point is well taken, but I think a lot has to do with the DM's judgement as to when a check is called for, how you want your PC to contribute to the game, etc. [/QUOTE]
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