Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is coming! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Classes that Suck
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Asisreo" data-source="post: 8060846" data-attributes="member: 7019027"><p>Honestly, you're never using that ability for the purpose of healing your allies. It's an okay AoE heal, but it doesn't work as well as any other form of healing. </p><p></p><p>You'll want it as a boost to your pre-existing second wind use. </p><p></p><p>The fact you only get one is a bit better...huh...oh! I just realized, it's slow and tedious, but it's a very rare free party heal per short rest. Given, say, 4 hours, you can actually heal up quite a bit without HD. Now, I doubt you'll be able to get that in during a dungeon raid, but it's possible to do so in adventures where there's only, like, 3 fights in the day. The only free short rest heals I can remember is a celestial warlock and a level 20 divine sorcerer. I'm not exactly impressed with the feature. It just has some uses. </p><p></p><p>So...yes and no. Everything the PDK has are buffs, which are passive, but they're buffs to active features. So they need to be activated. I'm not particularly afraid of such a type of playstyle. I don't need anything unique to satiate me, but I can respect that others would want something flashy in their abilities. That doesn't necessarily make them weak, though. Especially since inspiring surge scales completely with how your teammates scale. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can only assume it's for flavor reasons. I doubt it makes too much of a difference, though. Fighters are good with most physical saves except for dexterity. Even moreso, I don't know all that many AoE effects that target multiple targets. Dex is the exception, though it mostly only applies to spellcasters and those with specific AoE attacks like dragon's breath weapons. It would be more powerful if it did allow dex saves to be included. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Don't do that. Don't compare specific, similar effects from two different classes. The way they work may be similar but the way they synergize with the class is more important. </p><p></p><p>Paladin's aura of courage has a 10ft radius. Paladins are a melee class which means only those that are in melee with Paladins will actually benefit from it. At level 18, the aura is now 30ft. When the fighter gets it, the aura is a static 60ft. The fighter's bulwark covers 36x more area than paladin's aura of courage at level 15 and 4x more area at level 18. Is this enough to justify it as an ability? I don't know. Sure, I guess. I don't have any strong favoring for it since it is a feature I've never used before.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Asisreo, post: 8060846, member: 7019027"] Honestly, you're never using that ability for the purpose of healing your allies. It's an okay AoE heal, but it doesn't work as well as any other form of healing. You'll want it as a boost to your pre-existing second wind use. The fact you only get one is a bit better...huh...oh! I just realized, it's slow and tedious, but it's a very rare free party heal per short rest. Given, say, 4 hours, you can actually heal up quite a bit without HD. Now, I doubt you'll be able to get that in during a dungeon raid, but it's possible to do so in adventures where there's only, like, 3 fights in the day. The only free short rest heals I can remember is a celestial warlock and a level 20 divine sorcerer. I'm not exactly impressed with the feature. It just has some uses. So...yes and no. Everything the PDK has are buffs, which are passive, but they're buffs to active features. So they need to be activated. I'm not particularly afraid of such a type of playstyle. I don't need anything unique to satiate me, but I can respect that others would want something flashy in their abilities. That doesn't necessarily make them weak, though. Especially since inspiring surge scales completely with how your teammates scale. I can only assume it's for flavor reasons. I doubt it makes too much of a difference, though. Fighters are good with most physical saves except for dexterity. Even moreso, I don't know all that many AoE effects that target multiple targets. Dex is the exception, though it mostly only applies to spellcasters and those with specific AoE attacks like dragon's breath weapons. It would be more powerful if it did allow dex saves to be included. Don't do that. Don't compare specific, similar effects from two different classes. The way they work may be similar but the way they synergize with the class is more important. Paladin's aura of courage has a 10ft radius. Paladins are a melee class which means only those that are in melee with Paladins will actually benefit from it. At level 18, the aura is now 30ft. When the fighter gets it, the aura is a static 60ft. The fighter's bulwark covers 36x more area than paladin's aura of courage at level 15 and 4x more area at level 18. Is this enough to justify it as an ability? I don't know. Sure, I guess. I don't have any strong favoring for it since it is a feature I've never used before. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Classes that Suck
Top