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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6562547" data-attributes="member: 996">The Cleric, Wizard, Druid and Bard (and the Ranger, Paladin, EK, and Arcane Trickster) are all neo-Vancian casters that use the same prepare from spells known/cast using slots system.&nbsp; The Sorcerer and Warlock deviate from those systems.&nbsp; &nbsp;Sure.&nbsp; Being left out of the PH is a major issues, in itself.&nbsp;Fans of psionics wouldn't feel that way.&nbsp; &nbsp;I have to disagree, you can't come close to the Warlord in 5e.&nbsp; You can have an interaction-based character who fights, heals and buffs his team - but doesn't really coordinate them or model tactics or much else the Warlord did beyond the most basic leader functions - but it will be a caster (a Cleric, or multiclass, or Valor Bard or whatever).&nbsp; The Fighter is just too locked into being a high-damage mutli-attacker to leave customization space enough to make it into even a bowdlerized imitation of the Warlord, Battlemaster 'maneuvers' notwithstanding.&nbsp;The stakes are just different.&nbsp; Worst-case, messing with fluff will make your campaign come off as a little silly or internally inconsistent.&nbsp; Screwing up mechanics can render the game unplayable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6562547, member: 996"] The Cleric, Wizard, Druid and Bard (and the Ranger, Paladin, EK, and Arcane Trickster) are all neo-Vancian casters that use the same prepare from spells known/cast using slots system. The Sorcerer and Warlock deviate from those systems. Sure. Being left out of the PH is a major issues, in itself. Fans of psionics wouldn't feel that way. I have to disagree, you can't come close to the Warlord in 5e. You can have an interaction-based character who fights, heals and buffs his team - but doesn't really coordinate them or model tactics or much else the Warlord did beyond the most basic leader functions - but it will be a caster (a Cleric, or multiclass, or Valor Bard or whatever). The Fighter is just too locked into being a high-damage mutli-attacker to leave customization space enough to make it into even a bowdlerized imitation of the Warlord, Battlemaster 'maneuvers' notwithstanding. The stakes are just different. Worst-case, messing with fluff will make your campaign come off as a little silly or internally inconsistent. Screwing up mechanics can render the game unplayable. [/QUOTE]

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