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<blockquote data-quote="Elvinis75" data-source="post: 1204214" data-attributes="member: 4379">Ok I guess that I understand now.&nbsp; The difference here is that cleave a triggered ability that is part of any[\b] attack.&nbsp; I’m not going to argue your opinion but there is no facts that back it up.&nbsp; The other examples of actions that you list are prohibited outside your turn.&nbsp; An AoO does not grant a standard action.&nbsp; It allows you to make an attack with the weapon that you are threatening the area with.&nbsp; If that opponent falls it triggers the feat.&nbsp; Think of cleave like any other always on feat that only triggered in certain situations.&nbsp; Like Iron Will it only comes into play in certain situations.&nbsp; There is nothing in the rules that describes an AoO as a lesser attack than the ones that you take during your turn.&nbsp; The only difference is that during your turn you get better at finding the opening for the attacks and thus you make more as you grow in skill(experience).&nbsp; The AoO is not based on your skill but the lack thereof by the opponent.&nbsp; He gives you the free shot by doing something to let down his defenses.&nbsp; On the other hand the blow that you deal is real and not some stab in the dark without your normal skill thus the full attack bonus.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elvinis75, post: 1204214, member: 4379"] Ok I guess that I understand now. The difference here is that cleave a triggered ability that is part of [b]any[\b] attack. I’m not going to argue your opinion but there is no facts that back it up. The other examples of actions that you list are prohibited outside your turn. An AoO does not grant a standard action. It allows you to make an attack with the weapon that you are threatening the area with. If that opponent falls it triggers the feat. Think of cleave like any other always on feat that only triggered in certain situations. Like Iron Will it only comes into play in certain situations. There is nothing in the rules that describes an AoO as a lesser attack than the ones that you take during your turn. The only difference is that during your turn you get better at finding the opening for the attacks and thus you make more as you grow in skill(experience). The AoO is not based on your skill but the lack thereof by the opponent. He gives you the free shot by doing something to let down his defenses. On the other hand the blow that you deal is real and not some stab in the dark without your normal skill thus the full attack bonus.[/b] [/QUOTE]

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