Cleave and Mirror Image

[PinGuim]

Can a cleave beat the images of mirror image with a cleave? And if it can, how many images will be affected in it? And if it has great or supreme cleave?

Note:Sorry for my poor english.

 

[AuraSeer]

According to an email I got from the Sage, yes, it does work.

You destroy one image per attack. If you have Great Cleave, you only stop making rolls when there are no more images within reach, or you fail to kill a target. (That can happen if you miss the attack roll, or if you happen to hit the real caster and he doesn't die.)

 

[Hypersmurf]

Be aware that by the wording of the spell, the images can end up positioned in such a fashion that you might not be able to reach them all with Great Cleave.

-Hyp.

 

[Mahali]

The only message I've seen so far from The Sage was. "no". Images are not creatures and they have no HP so you never "drop" them.

 

[Hypersmurf]

The only message I've seen so far from The Sage was. "no". Images are not creatures and they have no HP so you never "drop" them.

So can you target them with a Magic Missile?

-Hyp.

 

[AuraSeer]

The only message I've seen so far from The Sage was. "no". Images are not creatures and they have no HP so you never "drop" them.

The Sage has said that Cleave does work on Mirror Images. See the email I posted in this thread.

 

[Croaker]

Would this situation be a legitimate opportunity for the Whirlwind Attack/Great Cleave/bucket of snails plan (granted, it would need a fair amount of luck)? That is, declare a Whirlwind attack against a wizard and all his mirror images, Great Cleave when the first image is popped, and if the Great Cleave target is the real wizard, continue the Whirlwind Attack against the images and the Great Cleaves against the real wizard.

 

[IceBear]

Would this situation be a legitimate opportunity for the Whirlwind Attack/Great Cleave/bucket of snails plan (granted, it would need a fair amount of luck)? That is, declare a Whirlwind attack against a wizard and all his mirror images, Great Cleave when the first image is popped, and if the Great Cleave target is the real wizard, continue the Whirlwind Attack against the images and the Great Cleaves against the real wizard.

Which is why I only allow one cleave against any one opponent per round - to prevent such cheese

IceBear

 

[Uller]

And this is why it is called Sage "advice". I think any DM would be within his rights to say that cleave does not work with Mirror Images simply because they are not creatures or even opponents. They are figments.

If you need in-game logic...in order to "pop" a figment, the attacker must really attack it as if it is a real target...not just wave his sword through it. Since there is nothing there, he is thrown off balance too much to get an additional attack.

 

[Mahali]

So can you target them with a Magic Missile?

-Hyp.

Yes, but I don't think for any of the reasons you guys are argueing in the other thread. I decided not to get involved in that one.

You can also say an illusion isn't an "opponent" which IIRC is the wording in the feat.