Cleric Domains = Extra Turning?

[Lord Torin]

If I am playing a cleric with an 14 Charisma I would get 5 Turning Attempts vs. undead.

If I choose a diety with the Plant Domain, do I get 5 more Turning Attempts only usable against Plant Creatures?

Or do I only get 5 Turning Attempts total and can use them either against undead or Plant creatures?

Lastly if I do have the additional 5 Turning Attempts vs. Plant Creatures, can I use them with Divine Metamagic?

 

[Thanee]

You get both, thus 10 total, and Divine Metamagic (as all Divine feats) only works with Turn Undead attempts, so no to that part.

Bye
Thanee

 

[shilsen]

What Thanee said.

 

[Kabol]

theres no real rulling on this subject that i have seen < have asked simular question of my DM > I think untill theres somethin offical its DM's call - And even if there is somethin offical - its still DM's call

 

[shilsen]

theres no real rulling on this subject that i have seen < have asked simular question of my DM > I think untill theres somethin offical its DM's call - And even if there is somethin offical - its still DM's call

I'm not sure why you need something official to say that the ability to Turn (for example) fire creatures is not the same as the ability to turn undead. But if you do, how about the FAQ?

Q: When you have a domain power that lets you turn or rebuke something other than undead, does using that power count against your daily uses of power to turn undead as a cleric? Can you trade a use of undead turning for a use of another turning, or vice versa?

A: No on all counts. A domain turning ability is separate from the cleric' undead turning ability. You track the daily use of each separately and you can' trade uses between abilities.

That, and the fact that the Divine Metamagic feats specifically have "Turn or rebuke undead ability" listed as a prerequisite, should be official enough.

 

[Thanee]

And there's a little paragraph about Divine Feats at the beginning of the chapter.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Li Shenron]

You have 5/day uses of Turn Undead + 5/day uses of Turn Plants.

They are kept separate, but there is one sort of exception: if you take the feat Extra Turning which grants 4 more uses per day, you get those 4 on each of the different turning abilities, so 9/day of Turn Undead + 9/day of Turn Plants.

 

[green slime]

The above posters are correct, if you accept the FAQ. You get 5+5 distinct turning attempts.

We have house ruled that, so that the "Plant" or "Fire" Turning attempts use the Undead turning attempts. So IMC, you only get 5 turning attempts, which may be used to either turn undead, or plants (assuming you have the domain).... I find it makes book keeping easier, and you don't have to worry about questions if they can create a separate Divine Metamagic feat for those plant turning uses.