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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Feldspar" data-source="post: 2650115" data-attributes="member: 20450">My apologies for saying this, but I think that's a terrible idea for a melee focused cleric.  This character is better off putting the 15 in Str and wearing heavy armor.  I don't think you cover a weakness (low Ref progression) by throwing a good stat at it - its like putting lipstick on a pig.  Its a use of very limited resources for something you won't use as often and will never be that great at anyway.   I do recommend memorizing a good protection from elements type of spell everyday though.Also, a Str of 10 precludes him from Power Attack, Cleave, etc.  How about "heal-bot 2000."  Yeah, baby, now that has some sex appeal! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  All kidding aside, I wasn't calling *you* a heal-bot, but rather how I'd feel in that role.  I have great respect for people who genuinely enjoy playing in a support role; your kind are welcomed in gaming groups world wide.  *I* on the other hand am a little more *selfish* than that; I hate it when other players tell me what spells I should memorize and cast on them.  But I am consistent which is a good thing.  In our last session I told our Dwarf cleric (who I think has the Strength and War domains) that if he, or his character, have any desire to use those spells on themselves or wade into combat for the glory of Moradin then he should.</blockquote>

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