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<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 6684611" data-attributes="member: 6779310">A warning about Torchbearer and Mouseguard: while low on dice rolls — about 5-30 total per 2-3 hour session total for a group of 4 in Mouseguard — the dice rolls are a major part of the game, and much of the game pacing is due to the roll mechanics. They are VERY mechanically crunchy. Play-wise, Mouse Guard is GM-driven for half the session, player driven based upon how much they nerfed themselves during the Gm's half. Torchbearer is more GM driven.Likewise, John Wick's Houses of the Blooded and Blood and Honor are quite dice heavy in feel - even tho the total number of dice rolls in a 4-5 hour session runs 20-40 total rolls - but 3-5 people rolling at a time. It can take quite a while to resolve one set of rolls.&nbsp; So, a major conflict in story may be only 3 sets of rolls total - and totally change the direction of the entire campaign... They're actually more storytelling than either Mouse Guard or Torchbearer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 6684611, member: 6779310"] A warning about Torchbearer and Mouseguard: while low on dice rolls — about 5-30 total per 2-3 hour session total for a group of 4 in Mouseguard — the dice rolls are a [U][I]major[/I][/U] part of the game, and much of the game pacing is due to the roll mechanics. They are VERY mechanically crunchy. Play-wise, Mouse Guard is GM-driven for half the session, player driven based upon how much they nerfed themselves during the Gm's half. Torchbearer is more GM driven. Likewise, John Wick's [U]Houses of the Blooded[/U] and [U]Blood and Honor[/U] are quite dice heavy in feel - even tho the total number of dice rolls in a 4-5 hour session runs 20-40 total rolls - but 3-5 people rolling at a time. It can take quite a while to resolve one set of rolls. So, a major conflict in story may be only 3 sets of rolls total - and totally change the direction of the entire campaign... They're actually more storytelling than either Mouse Guard or Torchbearer. [/QUOTE]

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